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  • REDEEMER
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    #91
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

    https://danrafael.substack.com/p/wbc...tory-situation

    Whyte is the mandatory, however the WBC punted in terms of ordering the bout next because Whyte is in arbitration with the WBC mainly over what the purse split would be. The WBC says 80-20, Whyte wants more.
    Wait a second that’s a written article that’s not the WBC statement,I gave you several links concerning Hrgovic final mandatory situations and you said that was just articles not an official statement so no .if mine don’t count neither does yours . The article is just reiterating what Fury and Warren said .

    The only source of a 20% mentioned is of Warren and as he states it’s in his mind not an actual fact .


    “In his mind, he thinks he's getting 45%, in our mind he's getting 20%” F. Warren

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    • sicko
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      #92
      Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

      In terms of fights between two boxers, the biggest fights in boxing history are:

      WBC & Super WBA world welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather vs WBO world welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao

      Super WBA world super welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather vs WBC world superwelterweight champion Canelo Alvarez

      WBC world super welterweight champion Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather

      WBA world heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson

      WBC & IBF world heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson


      Again I don't remember which belts was on the line personally, sure I could've easily google it or Boxrec but the point is MOST PEOPLE don't If or Which Belts was on the line for these Historic Fights

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        #93
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        Wait a second that’s a written article that’s not the WBC statement,I gave you several links concerning Hrgovic final mandatory situations and you said that was just articles not an official statement so no .
        Your source was a statement from Michael Hunter. Michael Hunter's statement was illogical and hasn't been supported by anybody.

        Whereas Dan Rafael is a respected reporter with a long track record of reporting accurate information. Very different.

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          #94
          Originally posted by sicko
          Again I don't remember which belts was on the line personally, sure I could've easily google it or Boxrec but the point is MOST PEOPLE don't If or Which Belts was on the line for these Historic Fights
          Most people may not know which of the world titles is at stake, but they know it's the most respected champion defending his legitimate title.

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            #95
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

            Your source was a statement from Michael Hunter. Michael Hunter's statement was illogical and hasn't been supported by anybody.

            Whereas Dan Rafael is a respected reporter with a long track record of reporting accurate information. Very different.
            My sources were from everyone including the fighters involved and from actual insiders like Hearn and the Saurlands among top you tube channels and platforms like this very forum reported on ? Stop lying you just didn’t want to see you were proven wrong again .

            Unless you can show an actual statement you’re lying ,you really are a head case if you actually think you’re going to tell other people to provide a direct source when you never do which includes this one and everyone knows Dan reports on anything that’s hearsay to get a story out ,how many times has he had to backtrack on something he never looked into so his write up is more believable then the actual people involved which I provided ,that’s what you are saying right ? .


            Why would anyone have to believe in or buy into Hunter concerning Hrgovic,he was removed from its rankings and was the direct cause of declining a final elimination bout ,are you saying this isn’t true ,yes or no ?


            Because if you say no it means the IBF just did that for fun right ? And put out false information on multiple platforms and everyone was in on it and your own link shows What Warren thinks not what’s a fact I guess you didn’t get that one either ?
            Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-24-2021, 10:29 PM.

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              #96
              Originally posted by REDEEMER
              My sources were from everyone including the fighters involved and from actual insiders like Hearn and the Saurlands among top you tube channels and platforms like this very forum reported on ? Stop lying you just didn’t want to see you were proven wrong again .
              No, you were proven wrong because you claimed I made the 80/20 split up.

              You previously claimed the IBF said Hrgovic was fighting in a final eliminator and when I asked you for a statement from the IBF, you linked to a video of Michael Hunter and you were caught lying.

              I claimed the WBC ruled 80/20 and respected journalists have reported the WBC made that ruling. Are you denying the WBC ruled that?

              You've already been caught lying about interim champions being entitled to 45%. You even tried to trick everyone by posting outdated rules that no longer appear in the WBC rules section.

              Why didn't you apologize?

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                #97
                Not even Warren has claimed the WBC ordered the 80/20, he just stated whats what he offered Whyte. Rafael seems to have have been very sloppy with his reporting.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by Kzbox
                  Im a Fury fan and i will be very disappointed if he drops that belt I don’t understand why he just doesn’t get Whyte out the way? He will no longer be relevant and he needs it for his resume. I would prefer him fight somebody else but he is mandated at the end of the day.
                  Fury might really be hesitant to fight Whyte because it's rumored he dropped Fury a few times in sparring. Whyte's style could cause Fury problems. It's easy to assume it'd be simple for Fury based on Whyte's two close fights with Chisora compared to Fury's dominating victory over Chisora in their rematch. But it often doesn't work that way in boxing. For example..
                  Shane Mosley got beat twice by Vernon Forrest
                  Forrest got beat twice by Ricardo Mayorga
                  Mayorga got beat twice by Shane Mosley

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

                    No, you were proven wrong because you claimed I made the 80/20 split up.

                    You previously claimed the IBF said Hrgovic was fighting in a final eliminator and when I asked you for a statement from the IBF, you linked to a video of Michael Hunter and you were caught lying.

                    I claimed the WBC ruled 80/20 and respected journalists have reported the WBC made that ruling. Are you denying the WBC ruled that?

                    You've already been caught lying about interim champions being entitled to 45%. You even tried to trick everyone by posting outdated rules that no longer appear in the WBC rules section.

                    Why didn't you apologize?
                    No you claimed the WBC made that statement so you lied because there is no such statement otherwise you’d post it ,instead you posted a misinformation article stating the WB.C ruled 80/20 when it’s just what Fury offered Whyte and what Warren thinks but thinking is not a fact is it ?

                    The interim champion is stated to get 45% it’s in the rules wheather it’s outdated or not isn’t on record because not even the WBC has made any type of statement what the splits are otherwise why are they in arbitration if that’s a written rule of 20% ?


                    The only facts we get when concerning you is that you don’t actually tell the truth you coat lies because that’s why you are on here .
                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-25-2021, 06:21 AM.

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                    • Stephankotyk
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                      #100
                      If he drops the belt, he is not the best HW for me personally. First, he is avoiding defending title, second he lose potentially being unified HW champion. His fans can say it doesn't matter, but it does for all non bias boxing fans out there. If he drops the title, he will endup inactive again or fighting soft opposition boasting ring title (lol)

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