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    #71
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    Maybe because it’s in their rules
    No, it's not in their rules and hasn't been in their rules since 2009. The current rules specifically state that interim champions are treated as normal challengers when it comes to the purse split.



    WBC RULES on SPLITS

    2.12 Division of Proceeds in a Purse Offer. The net purse offer (after deduction of the WBC certification fees) shall be divided as follows:
    a) 70% for the champion and 30% for the challenger.
    b) 50% to each contender in the case of vacant titles or elimination bouts.
    c) 55% to the champion and 45% to the interim champion
    Yes, you found that here: http://www.wbcboxing.com/downloads/N...FINAL_2009.pdf

    Those are old rules from 2009 that no longer appear in the rules section of the WBC website. Here is the rules section of the WBC website: https://wbcboxing.com/wbc/documentos/

    Here are the current WBC rules, which appear in the rules section of the WBC website: http://wbcboxing.com/downloads/WBCRu...d13Dec2011.pdf

    The CURRENT rules state:

    In its sole discretion, the WBC shall subsequently determine the timing and terms of any bout between a Champion and Interim Champion to determine a sole champion in the division, provided, however, that an Interim Champion shall never be deemed a mandatory challenger, or entitled to greater share of proceeds of any purse offer beyond that of a challenger, without a specific prior written order to that effect from the WBC President or his designee.

    Did you purposely post old rules that no longer appear in the rules section and have been replaced because you wanted to fool everyone? Or did you make an innocent mistake?

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    • SplitSecond
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      #72
      If Whyte can get that belt, whatever the means, I’d wager he gets the Usyk-Joshua winner.

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        #73
        Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF

        No, it's not in their rules and hasn't been in their rules since 2009. The current rules specifically state that interim champions are treated as normal challengers when it comes to the purse split.





        Yes, you found that here: http://www.wbcboxing.com/downloads/N...FINAL_2009.pdf

        Those are old rules from 2009 that no longer appear in the rules section of the WBC website. Here is the rules section of the WBC website: https://wbcboxing.com/wbc/documentos/

        Here are the current WBC rules, which appear in the rules section of the WBC website: http://wbcboxing.com/downloads/WBCRu...d13Dec2011.pdf

        The CURRENT rules state:

        In its sole discretion, the WBC shall subsequently determine the timing and terms of any bout between a Champion and Interim Champion to determine a sole champion in the division, provided, however, that an Interim Champion shall never be deemed a mandatory challenger, or entitled to greater share of proceeds of any purse offer beyond that of a challenger, without a specific prior written order to that effect from the WBC President or his designee.

        Did you purposely post old rules that no longer appear in the rules section and have been replaced because you wanted to fool everyone? Or did you make an innocent mistake?
        That’s another lie , the interim champion is treated normal if he fights outside the actual champion , nice try though .

        shall never be deemed a mandatory challenger, or entitled to greater share of proceeds of any purse offer beyond that of a challenger




        Its like you’re purposely trying to be dense .


        Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-24-2021, 03:33 PM.

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          #74
          I understand people may dislike Dillian Whyte. But the man deserves a title fight.

          I have noticed people keep bringing up, the possible fight he turned down to face Anthony Joshua.

          That fight would of been at short notice, because Jerrell Miller had just been done for performance enhancing drugs.

          If Whyte was being offered a fight at short notice, I don't really think people can criticize him for turning that fight down. If Hearn really wanted Whyte vs Joshua II, to happen? He should of rescheduled the fight in New York, so Whyte could of a longer time to prepare.

          People go on in boxing, about seeing the best facing the best. That is all good and well, but sometimes? What I want to see more than anything 'Is passion'.

          Dillian Whyte vs Tyson Fury is a match up, which has passion and brutality. It is another fight for Tyson Fury, where his opponent has a genuine dislike for him 'Hostile competition'.

          Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder, was a better fight and event than Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Usyk. It was also better than Teofimo Lopez vs Vasiliy Lomachenko. I could go on and on, basically it was the best fight and boxing event of 2021.

          And it was the best fight, because it was total warfare. Both inside the ring, and outside the ring.

          Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte is a very similar fight. The reason why I say this is because, Fury is clearly irritated and displeased with Whyte 'And Whyte is going to push back'.

          I think the fight has to happen.



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            #75
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
            I understand people may dislike Dillian Whyte. But the man deserves a title fight.

            I have noticed people keep bringing up, the possible fight he turned down to face Anthony Joshua.

            That fight would of been at short notice, because Jerrell Miller had just been done for performance enhancing drugs.

            If Whyte was being offered a fight at short notice, I don't really think people can criticize him for turning that fight down. If Hearn really wanted Whyte vs Joshua II, to happen? He should of rescheduled the fight in New York, so Whyte could of a longer time to prepare.

            People go on in boxing, about seeing the best facing the best. That is all good and well, but sometimes? What I want to see more than anything 'Is passion'.

            Dillian Whyte vs Tyson Fury is a match up, which has passion and brutality. It is another fight for Tyson Fury, where his opponent has a genuine dislike for him 'Hostile competition'.

            Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder, was a better fight and event than Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Usyk. It was also better than Teofimo Lopez vs Vasiliy Lomachenko. I could go on and on, basically it was the best fight and boxing event of 2021.

            And it was the best fight, because it was total warfare. Both inside the ring, and outside the ring.

            Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte is a very similar fight. The reason why I say this is because, Fury is clearly irritated and displeased with Whyte 'And Whyte is going to push back'.

            I think the fight has to happen.


            - - Both Furry and Whyte punch drunk by now, so should be a great fight for lowbrows.

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              #76
              Big Fights>BELTS!

              Boxing Fans...we're not consistent here, today we scream "Belt Organization Suck!" then tomorrow it is "Fury Need To Defend His WBC Belt vs Whyte" so which one is it?

              I will be honest...Never gave a SH^T about undisputed. The biggest fights in boxing history, I don't even remember nor did I give a sh^t what Belt was on the Line for those fights. So I don't know when this garbage of Must Be Undisputed started because before all this the Biggest Superstars and the biggest Draws in Boxing never made a big deal about Belts.

              It is not a Mega Fight in the Heavyweight Division that doesn't include Fury, so F^CK a "BELT"
              Last edited by sicko; 12-24-2021, 04:19 PM.

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                #77
                Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL
                I understand people may dislike Dillian Whyte. But the man deserves a title fight.

                I have noticed people keep bringing up, the possible fight he turned down to face Anthony Joshua.

                That fight would of been at short notice, because Jerrell Miller had just been done for performance enhancing drugs.

                If Whyte was being offered a fight at short notice, I don't really think people can criticize him for turning that fight down. If Hearn really wanted Whyte vs Joshua II, to happen? He should of rescheduled the fight in New York, so Whyte could of a longer time to prepare.

                People go on in boxing, about seeing the best facing the best. That is all good and well, but sometimes? What I want to see more than anything 'Is passion'.

                Dillian Whyte vs Tyson Fury is a match up, which has passion and brutality. It is another fight for Tyson Fury, where his opponent has a genuine dislike for him 'Hostile competition'.

                Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder, was a better fight and event than Anthony Joshua vs Oleksandr Usyk. It was also better than Teofimo Lopez vs Vasiliy Lomachenko. I could go on and on, basically it was the best fight and boxing event of 2021.

                And it was the best fight, because it was total warfare. Both inside the ring, and outside the ring.

                Tyson Fury vs Dillian Whyte is a very similar fight. The reason why I say this is because, Fury is clearly irritated and displeased with Whyte 'And Whyte is going to push back'.

                I think the fight has to happen.


                Most of what you said is the reason why Fury won’t fight him next ,a fighting man though ?


                His overall perception for me has done almost an entire 360 . He’s actually bottling his momentum he gained from the Wilder fights and throwing it away for a reluctance of fighting a guy he says is an easy fight but he’s the only one in his team saying it .

                Fury is basically trying to stay active while he puts Whyte on ice to further increase his chances since Shyte is going to be well out a year by the time he fights again. He’s not willing to risk a dangerous fight that’s just a fact Furys fans have to deal with because it’s the only conclusion one can come to if you are a rational person .
                Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-24-2021, 05:16 PM.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER
                  Most of what you said is the reason why Fury won’t fight him next ,a fighting man though ?


                  His overall perception for me has done almost an entire 360 . He’s actually bottling his momentum he gained from the Wilder fights and throwing it away for a reluctance of fighting a guy he says is an easy fight but he’s the only one in his team saying it .
                  This is now the perfect situation for Whyte to physically confront Tyson Fury. At the end of the day, that is the type of action 'Fury as fighting man, will understand'.

                  I told you awhile back, that sometimes 'Fighters have to go old school'.

                  There is a demand or Whyte vs Fury, as it is a big domestic fight. But if Whyte was to confront Fury in person, have a little back and forth or even a jostle 'This fight's market value will completely go through the roof'.

                  Note: I don't think this will happen, but this is the next cause of action I would like to see.

                  I can remember when Chisora confronted Whyte, suddenly that fights market value increased.



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                    #79
                    Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL

                    This is now the perfect situation for Whyte to physically confront Tyson Fury. At the end of the day, that is the type of action 'Fury as fighting man, will understand'.

                    I told you awhile back, that sometimes 'Fighters have to go old school'.

                    There is a demand or Whyte vs Fury, as it is a big domestic fight. But if Whyte was to confront Fury in person, have a little back and forth or even a jostle 'This fight's market value will completely go through the roof'.

                    Note: I don't think this will happen, but this is the next cause of action I would like to see.

                    I can remember when Chisora confronted Whyte, suddenly that fights market value increased.


                    Fury is basically just waiting for undisputed at least if Usyk wins .

                    The man doesn’t want a tough fight a fighti know would make him actually have to work in the ring and be very wary of body shots . This is just another reminder he’s still not ATG material .,being the better fighter is irrelevant if you don’t act like it .
                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-24-2021, 05:27 PM.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by sicko
                      The biggest fights in boxing history, I don't even remember nor did I give a sh^t what Belt was on the Line for those fights.
                      In terms of fights between two boxers, the biggest fights in boxing history are:

                      WBC & Super WBA world welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather vs WBO world welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao

                      Super WBA world super welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather vs WBC world superwelterweight champion Canelo Alvarez

                      WBC world super welterweight champion Oscar De La Hoya vs Floyd Mayweather

                      WBA world heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson

                      WBC & IBF world heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis vs Mike Tyson



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