Comments Thread For: Hearn On Fury-Whyte: Absolutely Want More Than 80-20 Split For Deal With Top Rank, Warren

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“a gold medal today isn’t what it was 20 years ago”

You mean when Audley Harrison won gold in 2000?

Go back to sleep old boy

Blackstarr is yet another AJ fan who is upset about his hero getting exposed, so thus has resorted to the tired old argument of it being a rubbish division.

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I’m trying to see your point, but I really don’t see it for the most part. Fury didn’t just skip the amateurs..he lost to David Price who took his place, and rather than wait another 4 years he just went pro. Olympics then the pros has always been the route for world class amateurs who make the grade..nobody willingly skips an Olympic place presented to them.

You mention the top guys then lost to fighters that the top guys wouldn’t lose to today..who’s that exactly? And how could you even tell when most of today’s HWs haven’t even fought anybody yet, and certainly not on a consistent basis?

And who are these 6ft5 athletic guys? Most picked up boxing in their late teens and are the Michael Grants of this era if you ask me. And let’s face it, a gold medal today isn’t what a gold medal was 20 years ago..the talent pool is far smaller with boxing losing America’s big men to a number of other mainstream sports. The fact Wilder won bronze tells me all I need to know.

Lewis was always recognised for his skills, he just wasn’t loved and was seen as over-calculating and lacking charisma, just like W Klitschko after him. All said and done, all one has to do is look at fights from the 90s with your own eyes and compare the skill level and intensity to that of heavyweight fights today. If the difference isn’t greatly apparent to you or anyone else, then I don’t really know what else to say.

Losing doesn’t mean you didn’t skip the amateurs. Many fighters stayed in the amateur ranks after losing including Lennox Lewis . Mike Tyson also lost to guys not fit to tie current fighters shoes but he went pro anyway and cleaned house .

Wilder won because it was the weakest Olympic period ever ,he lucked out ,it got him a medal and some face value .


Boxing isn’t an American sport it’s a global one . Lewis was well into his 30”s before he hit his stride so not sure what your point is ? In fact he peaked after age 35 .

My post speaks for itself ,you can’t contradict one fighter then use others who went through the same thing .

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Simple error mate..we were all referring to the 90s so obviously I meant 30-plus years ago, and not 20. Especially when you consider Wilder won a medal in that same decade, which I was pointing out. I probably could do with more sleep yes, but use some common sense to try understand the overall picture you clown.

Ok so let’s look at the 1992 Olympics, that’s the nearest to 30 years.

the super heavyweight division was won by a Cuban. I believe Igbineghu won the silver. The Danish guy Nielsen won a medal too. Hardly killers. The Cuban never turned pro and those others never did much as a pro in terms of glory.

In fact, the only two gold medalists to come out out of the whole of boxing in that Olympics in with a really notable pro career was De La Hoya and Casamayor.

So you can’t say a gold medal now isn’t what it was then. Far more medalists come out of the 2008 and 2012 Olympics and had good pro success than in 1992. 2016 is only 5 years ago so some those lot are still coming up

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

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Can we just go straight to purse bids and cut out all the BS and get a date and venue set please.

[Blackstarr]

Blackstarr is yet another AJ fan who is upset about his hero getting exposed, so thus has resorted to the tired old argument of it being a rubbish division.

I didn’t say it’s a rubbish division, I just said the 90s is much better. While I’m an AJ fan, I’ve always said Fury would be the favourite to beat him and I said Fury is unquestionably the no.1 fighter in the UK.

I also said that I wouldn’t back AJ against any of the top 10 of the 90s, while Fury would be competitive, so why don’t you disappear in the hole you came from you simpleton.

In your mind, being a fan means ultimate devotion and worship of that boxer as an infallible god. Sad life you lead..I pray for your health should Fury ever lose.

[Blackstarr]

Losing doesn’t mean you didn’t skip the amateurs. Many fighters stayed in the amateur ranks after losing including Lennox Lewis . Mike Tyson also lost to guys not fit to tie current fighters shoes but he went pro anyway and cleaned house .

Wilder won because it was the weakest Olympic period ever ,he lucked out ,it got him a medal and some face value .


Boxing isn’t an American sport it’s a global one . Lewis was well into his 30”s before he hit his stride so not sure what your point is ? In fact he peaked after age 35 .

My post speaks for itself ,you can’t contradict one fighter then use others who went through the same thing .

Think we’re getting into semantics debating about amateurs and these other things. The only point I’m trying to make is that the 90s was a much better era than this one, which in my mind is plain as day when you watch the fights, and seems to be the clear consensus amongst every knowledgeable boxing fan who have truly observed both.

If you think today’s HWs are on par and wouldn’t lose to the guys the top 90s heavyweights lost to, then sorry we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

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Offering 20% is as good as admitting you don't want that fight.

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Losing doesn’t mean you didn’t skip the amateurs. Many fighters stayed in the amateur ranks after losing including Lennox Lewis . Mike Tyson also lost to guys not fit to tie current fighters shoes but he went pro anyway and cleaned house .

Wilder won because it was the weakest Olympic period ever ,he lucked out ,it got him a medal and some face value .


Boxing isn’t an American sport it’s a global one . Lewis was well into his 30”s before he hit his stride so not sure what your point is ? In fact he peaked after age 35 .

My post speaks for itself ,you can’t contradict one fighter then use others who went through the same thing .

Lennox Lewis has no defining peak, he outlasted all the top fighters of the 90's 'So that makes him appear as if, he had a peak during the late 90's and early 2000's'.

I think even Lewis has even stated himself, that he had not prime. That is what I think anyway.

Mike Tyson was still a really top amateur, I think it was Henry Tillman who beat him for Olympic nullification. Tyson later fought him in the professional ranks, and sparked out inside 1 round etc

Overall, I think the Olympic Boxing Title is losing prestige. Mainly because they have changed the rules, and it does not quite seem like route into the professional game anymore.

Frazier Clarke won a bronze medal this year at the Olympics, well done to him but? What is he wanting to do off the back off that. Plus he I think had fought as a professional before, he decided to go back into the amateurs.

I don't like the new rules of Olympic boxing at all.

[Shadoww702]

Losing doesn’t mean you didn’t skip the amateurs. Many fighters stayed in the amateur ranks after losing including Lennox Lewis . Mike Tyson also lost to guys not fit to tie current fighters shoes but he went pro anyway and cleaned house .

Wilder won because it was the weakest Olympic period ever ,he lucked out ,it got him a medal and some face value .


Boxing isn’t an American sport it’s a global one . Lewis was well into his 30”s before he hit his stride so not sure what your point is ? In fact he peaked after age 35 .

My post speaks for itself ,you can’t contradict one fighter then use others who went through the same thing .

What are you talking about weak olympics???

They had Usyk, Russo, Cuba's Acosta in it. And I didn't even bring up the gold winner.. With Wilder in it.

[Shadoww702]

Offering 20% is as good as admitting you don't want that fight.

??? It's still going to be a couple of millions. You all CRAZY thinking these guys deserve soo much compared to A side.

I think 25%-30 is a GREAT offer. Dude don't even have a belt unlike Plant. Who got 25% against Canelo which was $10 million.

Fury gonna want at least $10 million. That's $2 million for Whyte. Who got starched by an old man. And the rematch was a shell of the old man you could CLEARLY see wasn't over Covid yet.