Comments Thread For: Hearn On Fury-Whyte: Absolutely Want More Than 80-20 Split For Deal With Top Rank, Warren

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Fury never used to be a draw over in the UK when I was still living there but he's a legit crossover star now and I'm pretty certain he could fill a stadium fighting dross. The mental health comeback ****, the 12th round undertaker impression in Wilder one, the destruction of Wilder in 2 and the up and down excitement of Wilder 3 have boosted him massively. I've witnessed the change in tune from many, many casuals. Admittedly this is all anecdotal but despite that you could ask the average person on the street if they knew who Tyson Fury was and they invariably would.

Fury is a global star.

[deathofaclown]

How did I miss this post..it shows you’re on crack. Take 1992 - Holyfield, Tyson, Rid**** Bowe, Razor Ruddock, Ray Mercer, George foreman, Tony Tucker, Lennox Lewis, Witherspoon, Oliver McCall etc. Literally the golden era of HW boxing and you’re comparing it to this weak era?

I don’t pick AJ to beat any of them, Wilder even less so given they mostly all had iron chins and he can’t box to save his life. Fury went damn near life and death against McDermott, considers a blown up ex cruiser coming of 3 losses in his past 4 fights as his toughest fight, and came close to being stopped on cuts against Wallin. Yet he beats a HW with the most padded record in HW history and all of a sudden he wipes all of the 90s heavyweights out? Please don’t post on this thread anymore.

Most of them are over hyped and plenty of them weren’t that good

Fury at his Best would beat every single one on that list, there’s only prime Lewis that would stand a chance, But not even the 1992 version of Lewis

Usyk would school Everyone on that list as they were in 1992

Athletes simply get better over time. In almost every single sport where you can have a definitive measurement such as time and distance, it is absolute proof that athletes are better today than 30 years ago.

Sadly boxing doesn’t have a definitive measurement it’s all opinion, But you would have to be extremely naive to think boxing hasn’t progressed the same as every other sport that can be proven.

Tyson Fury takes out any heavy weight from 1992 and before within the distance.

It would be like saying Carl Lewis is still one of the greatest sprinters ever, when in fact his usual times would get him smoked in the current sport of athletics and he would finish behind the rest of the field. You might get one or two athletes from the past that could compete today but it’s extremely rare

[Boxingfanatic75]

rose tinted glasses.

There was about three or four good heavyweights in that era and the rest were just fighters like Andrew Golota who are no better than the second tier of HW’s today

Name this incredible top 15 heavyweights from the 1990’s, I mean all top 15 at the same time , not spread out over a 10 year period, pick any specific year you want. I’ll bet it’s not much better than right now after you get past the top few slots in the list.

Fury would whoop anyone from that era, The only one that would have a chance would be Lennox Lewis. Usyk would beat them all too, again, possibly apart from Lewis.

1991-1994

Bowe
Lewis
Holyfield
Tyson
Ruddock
Foreman
Moorer
Morrison
Witherspoon
McCall
Tucker
Seldon
Bruno
Tua
Holmes
McCall

Imo each of these would mop up the top 10 and half I feel would beat present day champs. The competition and skill was greater then. A 0 meant far less then than it does today. Not one was a Primadonna skirting challenges to risk their 0.

[Toffee]

There's more than meets the eye with this one.

The WBC have ordered the fight but not stated what the split will be if it goes to purse bids?

Then it's certainly not getting made in the negotiating period. And if they then stipulate some strange split that is outside of their regular splits it won't get to purse bids either.

Fury gets to argue that Whyte ducked him. And the fools are all happy. Another win for Fury!

I'd feel sorry for Whyte if it wasn't for the fact he's continued to go down the WBC route with repeated evidence that it's not a legitimate pathway for him. Any fighter taking that path needs to question their sanity.

One for Eddie to mull over too. Did he push the WBC angle because it was the only belt Joshua didn't hold? Very possible.

It's time fighters called out the WBC. It shouldn't have any credibility in the sport. They keep devaluing their own belts and the fighters keep giving it credibility by chasing them.

[bullydean]

1991-1994

Bowe
Lewis
Holyfield
Tyson
Ruddock
Foreman
Moorer
Morrison
Witherspoon
McCall
Tucker
Seldon
Bruno
Tua
Holmes
McCall

Imo each of these would mop up the top 10 and half I feel would beat present day champs. The competition and skill was greater then. A 0 meant far less then than it does today. Not one was a Primadonna skirting challenges to risk their 0.

Yeah these guys would probably mop the floor with the current top ten but you have to be in denial if you don't think Fury and Usyk would stand a chance or even beat a lot of these guys. Footwork, reach, chins, and ring IQ on Usyk and Fury make them great fighters regardless of the competition.

[bullydean]

Seems like Whyte wants that retirement check. If he wants the belt then he should take the deal like Fury did against Klitschko. He would get the better half in the rematch if Fury doesn't retire and a shot at undisputed.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Yeah these guys would probably mop the floor with the current top ten but you have to be in denial if you don't think Fury and Usyk would stand a chance or even beat a lot of these guys. Footwork, reach, chins, and ring IQ on Usyk and Fury make them great fighters regardless of the competition.

I think they’d fair really well (Fury and Usyk) in that era. But let’s not forget Holyfield was that era’s Usyk only with far more power in his punches. That era had what I feel were better boxers but each with power which made them more dangerous.

[Zn1]

all that **** Warren and Co talked when AJ wanted better than a 50/50 split vs Wilder and now they're demanding 80/20 for this one?

[Zn1]

rose tinted glasses.

There was about three or four good heavyweights in that era and the rest were just fighters like Andrew Golota who are no better than the second tier of HW’s today

Name this incredible top 15 heavyweights from the 1990’s, I mean all top 15 at the same time , not spread out over a 10 year period, pick any specific year you want. I’ll bet it’s not much better than right now after you get past the top few slots in the list.

Fury would whoop anyone from that era, The only one that would have a chance would be Lennox Lewis. Usyk would beat them all too, again, possibly apart from Lewis.

I feel like Evander would give Fury a hard time too, I mean ****, Cunningham was one of Fury's toughest fights and he was old and not as good IMO.

[Blackstarr]

Yeah these guys would probably mop the floor with the current top ten but you have to be in denial if you don't think Fury and Usyk would stand a chance or even beat a lot of these guys. Footwork, reach, chins, and ring IQ on Usyk and Fury make them great fighters regardless of the competition.

I think Fury and Usyk would be competitive, Fury more so because of his size and reach, but I’d have both as noticeable underdogs against the likes of Holyfield, early 90s Mike Tyson, Rid**** Bowe, Ray Mercer and Lennox Lewis. I’d have them more competitive against the lower top-10 like Witherspoon and Tucker, but even then I wouldn’t have them as clear favourites. Neither would have the power to back these fighters up, all of whom had equal stamina and chins.

Holyfield was a bigger, stronger, more powerful and at least an equally skilled version of Usyk, and was himself beaten by Bowe and Michael Moorer. Given Usyk’s struggles against Chisora, can you imagine him fending off the likes of Bowe and Mercer? I’d throw in Moorer to beat him too, and I reckon Fury would struggle with the southpaw as well - taking fights with Wallin and Steve Cunningham into account.

The guy who said Fury wipes out all of them, except maybe for Lewis, and that Usyk beats them all as well is an absolute tool.