Comments Thread For: Arum: Crawford Isn't PPV Draw, We've Lost Money On Every Fight

[nino brown21]

Imagine promoting an artist that simply refuses to promote themselves

I'd imagine that a promoters job is to promote. Crawford's got the skills and talent , if he wants to run his mouth off or act some type of way for attention that's all on him . I don't see anything wrong with what he's doing , he's a fighter not a entertainer.

[QballLobo]

I don’t see any other move than going to PBC. Arum clearly doesn’t want him back. He’s said for years he’s losing money on Crawford.
Him trying to promote himself as a free agent won’t work well for him. He’s not a draw and Haymon would lowball him for fights like Spence or Thurman if he’s not a PBC fighter. High risk low rewards.
Hes almost 35, not much time to make the big money fights.

[aboutfkntime]

Arum has maintained this even when Crawford still had a couple years left. He has consistently said he loses money on Crawford.

Crawford is not a draw. He’s had a couple of chances to show it. His PPV’s should be around 350k with him as the A-side for him to be considered a decent draw.

That was where Mayweather and Pacquiao were before they got their big breaks. That is also where Spence averages in his fights. 350k is where you want to start. Canelo did 300-350k with him as the A-side vs Lara and Angulo. This showed he would make a good dance partner for another good draw.

I think ultimately, you want to have confidence in a fighter being able to sell 500-600k+ vs another good draw.

that is what I would have expected

135k, wtf ?

he is better than Cotto... who could hardly speak english, and was not exciting / interesting outside the ring... WTF ?

not aiming the next comment at you, talking to the casuals...

****heads...

... put down your wheaties... take off your Jake Paul t-shirt, and go burn the fkn thing... and start developing a actual love for this game

Crawford is a rare talent






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[aboutfkntime]

Not to change the subject, but that's probably the first time I've ever heard someone suggest that RJJr took on all-comers. His MW-SMW career is remembered as much for the guys he didn't fight than the guys he fought.

at 168, yea... and Michalewski should have happened



1) as did MANY other fighters, including ATG's

2) he finished his career with a PHENOMENAL resume

3) he beat BETTER guys, than those he missed... including numerous ATG's / HOF'ers

4) we hear that same shlt about Canelo now... despite the fact that NOBODY is facing stiffer competition than Canelo

5) Jones was viewed as invincible at one time



but yea, you have a point... fair call



I liked Bradley, I was a big fan from as far back as the Witter fight... but...

FACT: Bradley's resume looks timid, considering the fights that he missed at welter

so... RJJ was a good enough example to make my point... but, fair call






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[kiaba360]

Crawford is fun to watch but his personality is pretty dry. I think at the highest level, people want to hear a louder mouth and someone crazy outspoken. Heck, Kamboso JUST won and he's connected with everyone. I haven't read a bad thing about him on any video interview/highlight on the net. People love him already.

Crawford hasn't been an underdog for a very long time, and he's been in the spotlight for a long while too. Kambosos made a good first impression on many fans, and his affable personality in interviews will endear him to even more. Crawford has reached a point in his career where most have their minds made up about him, for better or worse.

[aboutfkntime]

I don't think it is particularly Arum's fault or even Crawford's fault. When PBC has all of the top welterweights locked up and refuses to allow them to fight anyone outside PBC what can Arum do about it? Absolutely nothing. The problem is Crawford came along in an era of a PBC controlled welterweight division. The fighters named above came along before PBC got a stranglehold on several boxing divisions, but especially the welterweight division. People cry about the fall of boxing and I lay it at the feet of Al Haymon. He has babied his fighters and gave them millions to fight nobodies and that kind of attitude and approach spread like wild fire to fighters outside of PBC like Golovkin, Mikey Garcia and now all the top fighters at lightweight. PBC has created an era of fighters who want millions for doing the absolute minimum plus fighters who absolutely refuse to challenge themselves. Out of all the PBC fighters that Haymon has in his stable only Porter has challenged himself and fought everyone he could, but Porter is the exception that proves the rule. But such an approach has been a failure for Haymon's fighters and it is especially obvious in the public failures of the careers of Garcia and Golovkin.

you make some fair points, but the two fights that Crawford desperately needed should have happened...Pacquiao / Spence

I think that Arum totally blew it regarding the Pacquiao fight... and I think that he had no intention of making the Spence fight

#protectthatinvestment

my main point was, Spence was a muppet when he started demanding 70/30... he is not a star, and that nonsense will kill his best chance to become one

also... FACT: Bradley never fought anyone relevant other than Pacquiao... are we gonna blame PBC for that as well?

everyone knows whats up with Bobfather Arum my bro






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[Sosay]

Of course he isn't, he's been with a horrible promoter who couldn't get him a fight.

[NachoMan]

I'd imagine that a promoters job is to promote. Crawford's got the skills and talent , if he wants to run his mouth off or act some type of way for attention that's all on him . I don't see anything wrong with what he's doing , he's a fighter not a entertainer.

True, and I love watching him fight, but Terrence has to understand by now that superstar money is for fighter's who transcend the world of hardcore boxing and draw the less sophisticated casual sports fan. To me, most of hits fights are exciting, but the numbers don't lie. Not many people, even boxing fans, pay to see him fight. Part of his problem certainly has been politics and not being able to get the right fights, but the truth is that he needs a big time dance partner to make any real PPV money, so he's not a star all by himself. LIke it or not, he needs to sell himself better. **** talking Errol is a good start. Overall, Bud's got the same attitude about himself and boxing that Rigondeaux does.

[The Old LefHook]

Crawford cannot sell because he is a halfwit who wants to talk about how great he is without fighting the best. No one wanted to see him fight Pac.

[aboutfkntime]

I'd imagine that a promoters job is to promote. Crawford's got the skills and talent , if he wants to run his mouth off or act some type of way for attention that's all on him . I don't see anything wrong with what he's doing , he's a fighter not a entertainer.

I pretty much agree

which means... what Mayweather achieved, and even Pacquiao to a lesser degree... was HUGE

Mayweather was better than Crawford, but Crawford's style is likely more appealing to casual fans... and yet, 135k PPV's

Pacquiao is supported and loved by the Filipinos, and Canelo is supported and loved by Mexicans... whereas, Mayweather was never really supported and loved by Americans

Mayweather was way ahead of the curve, in ALL departments

but yea, that TBE shlt gets old






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