Comments Thread For: Arum: Crawford Isn't PPV Draw, We've Lost Money On Every Fight

[Smash]

crawfords fine, he got paid well over the years and a lot of it was easy money, if floyd had kept his mouth shut and didnt promote himself and push like he did, it would have been different for him too, some gameplans work better than others, you know

[xEcto1x]

Crawford is the Blackalicious of boxing.

[aboutfkntime]

Bud doesn't draw like some, because PBC has all the top welterweights that the world wants to see Bud against. And they made it their official policy to keep as many of them away from Bud as they can, as part of their campaign and business model to f.. up Top Rank and keep Bud from f.....ing up their investments by whipping their guys asses. And as soon as they threw one of their top guys at Bud, we all saw what happened. And that's what PBC fully understood all along-that Bud is too good to give an opportunity to, because he's not their guy, so therefore, he's bad for business. They knew that ever since he kicked Gamboa and Diaz's ass. On Bob Arum's end, he can't really promote Bud either, because all he can feed him are guys no one wants to pay to see. So it's not Bud's fault at all. He always beats the guy across the ring from him. That's all he can do, besides crash a press conference and slap the **** out of someone who's ducking him, to try and publicly humiliate them into fighting him. But if he did that, all half of these dudes would do is sue him and try to get some money of him. Aaron Pryor should have slapped the **** out of Ray Leonard at that press conference he crashed. I'm still pissed about the fact that he didn't. If he did, Ray would have had to fight him

I get your point, that a lot of promoters steer their guys away from Crawford... but that reflects on the fighter in my book

nobody steered Shawn Porter away from Crawford... and Crawford just left Arum for not securing the fights he wanted

I got no problem with guys who are still developing and working their way up, but a lot of established fighters behave like bltches

if RJJ heard someone say that a fighter could beat him.. be that media, fans, whoever... Roy demanded that fight, he wanted blood

I blame Arum for not landing the Spence fight... but Spence is not without blame, he showed no real interest in that fight

demanding 70% is ridiculous, that was NEVER going to happen and HE KNEW IT

Spence demanding 70% for Crawford, is like Golovkin demanding 164 for Ward... THEY 100% KNEW that was a show-stopper

Porter is a dog, and a total class act... I miss him already






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[Deleted]

Good one Side Show Bob..
He's basically saying Crawford has a really really bad promoter lol. Look at what others managed to do on a Sunday with a last minute replacement..

[jdp28tx]

The hard truth is that neither Crawford or Spence are ppv stars. Neither are the A side because neither can produce ppv average numbers of more than a few hundred thousand buys. PBC never releases the numbers which means that their ppv numbers are low because I guarantee you if Spence got ppv numbers of 500,000-1,000,000 PBC would be releasing those numbers and bragging about them to the public. The hard truth is there is only one ppv star in boxing and that is Canelo Alvarez.

[El_Mero]

Ppvs might not have sold but Crawf is must see tv. If Spence continues to duck he should just give the belts up. Ugas is stuck in a dumbf.uck tourney. Aint nobody else for Spence to fight.

[Ry92]

The only way to make crawford marketable is . 1 put fighy public tv espn fox ect say vs swift garcia or such . then fight ppv after if win in decisive manner should be a reasonable draw then . 300k-500k.

[OnePunch]

unfortunately "talent" and "drawing power" have nothing to do with each other outside the hardcore fan demographic. Does it make sense that Jake Paul can out-draw 99% of all active fighters today? No it does not, but unfortunately that's the world we live in.

It's easy to blast Bob, but a promoter cannot "make" someone into a draw. All he can do is expose that fighter to the public, and hope that some kind of connection takes place. Personally I have never been able to conclusively say why Bud hasnt developed into a better draw. The quiet demeanor doesn't help, but he is a killer in the ring. He SHOULD be a much better draw than he is. Unfortunately PBC doesnt release PPV numbers, so we cant really compare how poorly he compares to Spence, Thurman, etc. For whatever reason, Bud just never really connected with the casuals, which is whats necessary in order to become a "draw".

[aboutfkntime]

I think Crawford is too good to need to have to do anything outside the ring..
He's a legit killer. He has to contain that.
He nearly fought Benavidez twice before their fight.

Arum did bad business. He overpaid to secure one of the top guys. And then he wants Crawford to act like a Jake Paul to get attention.

Speaking of which, Jake Paul without any talent is showing how fighters can make ten times more money if they up their game in the promotion.

But I still don't think Crawford needs to. Spence doesn't. Porter doesn't. Canelo doesn't do anything more than Crawford in promotion.

but Jake Paul is a total ass-clown

most boxing insiders, and most hardcore fans... think he is just a shlthead

I get the feeling that most casual fans don't seem to like him either, Paul bought most of his fans with him from youtube/twitter/etc

the dude comes across like a spoiled kid... he is a childish smart-ass, with no class whatsoever

the only good thing I can say about him is he seems to behave like a professional in camp/training, and he seems to be stepping up his competition

NONE of the top PPV fighters in the last 20 years behaved like Jake Paul... Pacquiao, Canelo, Cotto... even Mayweather

I loved your first line bro, that was gold... " I think Crawford is too good to need to have to do anything outside the ring "

he really needed those breakout fights with Pacquiao/Spence... but I still can't understand why he is not a bigger draw just based on ability






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[Curt Henning]

Pac was embarrassed by the fake contracts with Floyd, and then he threatened to sue to get his dough for the Matthysse fight, but then Bob "suddenly" found the bag! What really saddens me, is that someone should've told Bud about Floyd, Cotto, and Mikey! How does he not learn from them?

probably the same way pac never learned about how bob and koncz was ****ing him till it was wayyy too late....guys like pac and bud were cashing checks they never really imagined theyd see and they just couldnt see past that......the other guys had been warned by ppl close to them who paid attention to the $$$/biz side of the game......i mean...look at how much money floyd made...look at how good cotto is with his money....buying gas stations and investing it wisely.......meanwhile pac was friggin giving it away to every hanger on he could.....