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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
yea, good points...
doubt that Crawford's financial demands prevented Pacquiao/Spence... I am sure that we would have heard something if bud had priced himself out with Pacquiao... and Arum admitted that he did not even attempt to make that fight, citing concern for Pacquiao's well-being... but fair point about the network, no idea... and nope, never heard any offers from PBC, not one
I suppose I mainly blame Arum because...
1) both of those fights really should have happened, they are no-brainers
2) Arum admitted that he did not attempt to make Pacquiao/Crawford... despite that fight being mentioned in the media on multiple occasions, and despite Pacquiao publicly showing interest in Crawford's welterweight rival Spence
3) Crawford / Spence is one of the biggest - if not the biggest - fight in boxing... but you made some great points, and we do not know the full story
4) we just watched the same thing happen to Tim Bradley
fair call, point taken... I will shut up and stop calling for Arum to suffer a public hanging by angry mob :lol1:
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nah, why break tradition?? lolLast edited by OnePunch; 12-09-2021, 04:19 PM.aboutfkntime likes this.
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Boxing promoters don't lose money because of their fighters. They lose money because they can't promote. Bob is somebody else's puppet. That somebody else wants Terence Crawford to be his puppet too. Crawford is the best pound for pound fighter in Boxing today.
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The PPV price included an obligation to subscribe to ESPN. Otherwise, I would have bought the fight. ESPN has devolved into being too political. ESPN sucks. Too bad they had to push a subscription to ESPN in order to get the fight. Crawford should hook up with Showtime.
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Originally posted by OnePunch View PostHow would Arum have ever made Mayweather-Bradley? Top Rank didnt even sign Bradley until the Casamayor fight. Before that Bradley was with Gary Shaw. And by the time Bradley was with Top Rank, Floyd had been gone from TR for over 6 years, and was already into his Showtime contract.
No way Bob could have made that fight......
my point was... I never heard Arum even mention that fight, not once
it is absurd to think that a fight between the two highest ranked welterweights is... inconceivable... WTF?
FACT: Mayweather does whatever he wants, period... if he wants something to happen, then it will happen... that fight would happen in a goat shed in Upper Mongolia if Mayweather decided to make it happen... that is a fact... Bradley was ranked #1 by The Ring, and Mayweather would view him as a highly beatable opponent... I am sure that Mayweather would prefer Bradley over Guerrero, which happened in May 2013
I bet Bradley wanted that fight LMAO
forget Mayweather, Bradley never got ANY of those fights Terry... no Thurman, no Porter, no Broner, no Spence, no Danny Garcia, no Khan, no Brook, no Guerrero, no Malignaggi, no Maidana... surely the excuses have to stop at some point?
also... Bob "in-house" Arum made stars like Mosley/Marquez sign with Top Rank before they could fight Pacquiao... it is easy to see whats up, and why
FACT: immediately after signing with Top Rank, Bradley said this... " due to boxing politics, I may not fight the best "... so... he KNOWINGLY sold his legacy, for a Pacquiao payday... and as we can see now, with the benefit of hindsight... Bradley never fought ANY of the top welters except Pacquiao, not one
that really plssed me off... because like I said earlier, I was a big Bradley fan... I liked his attitude, and I liked how he always found a way to win... fights with Thurman, Porter, Broner, Spence, Danny Garcia, Khan, Brook, Guerrero, Malignaggi, Maidana... would have been GREAT
FACT: I have never seen a bigger list of misses, for a supposed top fighter... if you know a bigger list, I would love to hear it
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Originally posted by kiaba360 View Post
Just to clarify, I was explaining why Kambosos has been able to connect so quickly: because his first impression for most fans was as a wide underdog for the (almost) undisputed championship against someone who had just beaten a consensus P4P boxer (Loma). Also, Teofimo was in his hometown. Terrence's first impression for many was probably against Breidis Prescott. The scenarios couldn't be any farther from each other, in terms of scale and significance. It's not Crawford's fault, just the way things played out.
As for Crawford being an underdog....I think almost everything at 147-154 is 50/50 at worst for Crawford. MW is when I think he'd start becoming the clear underdog. If Castano can have success at 154, I think Crawford could too.
I guarantee that Crawford would be a red hot favorite over EVERY welter, including Spence
bookies are smart, and that style matchup would not favor Spence
not sure about the top JMW's, I would need to see how Crawford settled in at 154... I suspect that you are probably correct, and he certainly has the skills/style to punch above his weight... like Mayweather did at 154
Crawford is super-elite... he has great ringIQ, and his switch-hitting is exceptional... one of the best I have ever seen... but he is not as defensively sound as Mayweather... Floyd is slightly sharper, has a slightly tighter game, and is more technically-correct in most departments... Mayweather really was a textbook fighter... so I would like to see how Crawford adapted to 154, before making any calls regarding the top guys... but I suspect that you are right... if he settled in at 154 as comfortably as he did at welter and had no problems adapting to the weight... then only a small handful at the very top would be even money, at best... there are only two that I can think of, Crawford would likely be favored over everyone else
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You gotta be a trash talking clown fiesta social media instagram don in 2021 to sell fights? Straight men need not apply to be boxing's greatest attractions.
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I agree with those saying that Bob Arum should have made Pacquiao vs Crawford when both were with Top Rank.
That was the passing of the torch fight that Bud needed. It would have given him the rub and name recognition necessary to go to the next level.
To become a PPV star you have to beat a PPV star (Floyd vs Oscar) or at least fight a PPV star (Canelo vs Floyd.)
Arum dropped the ball and screwed Crawford over on that one.
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I have never paid and will never pay for a Bumford fight.. Arum is right Bumford can’t sell a family dinner in his hometown. He’s Boring and has no charisma lol
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