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  • Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

    Its up to Top Rank to build the star, like any other high profile business if they need an image and public appeal employ professionals to teach them .
    Sure - but promote a star that simply refuses to promote themselves and you'll have a dim star. When you're socially awkward and introverted and refuse to work on it (and you dont have to, be yourself sure) dont expect to go far. EI is real and has been proven thousands of times (emotional intelligence).

    Crawford's personality is gloomy and low low low - its not enticing, its kind of like a fading flower, you kind of rather not look at.

    This is why Teofimo, Berlanga, Ryan act so fake - they are trying very hard to act extroverted. Honestly its too much for me, but this sells better than not being proactive in being socially active.

    Most important lesson we dont teach kids is to take full responsibility for your life. Blame no one on your condition, its not going to help a single bit (even if you're 100% right). People sit out for years on a lot of things (having a relationship, saving money, better career) hopeing life will address their wants.
    Last edited by IAMTHAT; 12-10-2021, 09:36 AM.

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    • I think it was a combination of not getting the fights Bud wanted that could generate more revenue AND the lack of Bud's personality. He's a tad dry when he speaks and comes off dull. Of course his fighting is a whole different story but again, in that situation, he requires the right dance partners. Heck, Pacquiao could barely speak English in the early going but he fought the right guys to make for hella entertaining fights. How could a foreigner have a bigger response than a domestic fighter of equal talent?

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      • Originally posted by xEcto1x View Post
        Floyd is the perfect example of how this has nothing to do with Crawfords fighting style or ability. He played the villain against de la Hoya, the darling of the sport and then the world tuned in to watch him lose from then on going forward.

        Crawford you want money. You want that fame, gotta beat Canelo, bra. And why not? Move up, fight Canelo. Give us a fight we all want to see.
        Canelo vs Crawford is a fight I'd love to see, but there's no way to make the weights work. Even if Saul could trim down to 160, it'd be a stretch for Bud meet him there.

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        • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
          Manny Pacquiao is the Filipino version of Joe Louis! I hope there is a heaven, because they deserve to be there!
          wasnt it even bob arum who said "i dont know what koncz even does"? or maybe it was someone else that said that but i think it was bob....and all the talk about how all he did was cut up mannys steak for him lol......then of course there was koncz trying to manage other philipino fighters and cutting dirty deals with arum ....lol....its unreal....manny was just too naive...like i said, he was seeing checks he never thought were realistically possible and just never questioned sht

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          • Originally posted by Get em up View Post

            Let me clarify it's not a guarantee I'm just think Hearn is the better fit for Bud and most logical PROMOTER to get him out there more. These comments are just thoughts tossed in the air in the realm of possibility. At the end of the day its boxing so who knows what will happen
            Yes, I get that, and was just sort of being a *devil's advocate"
            ​​​​ I think Crawford is in a bit of a tight spot tbh.

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            • Originally posted by NCBoxingPro View Post
              Top Rank couldn't get him the fights he wanted most; Pac and Spence. He re-signed with Top Rank because he was certain he would get the Pac fight as promised.

              Crawford should definitely venture out and test the waters to see what's best for his career at this point. Nothing bad to say about Top Rank, but this seems to occur with all of their top fighters.

              Same thing is happening right now to Shakur Stevenson trying to to get the fight with his Top Rank stablemate Oscar Valdez.
              Yup, the hung that carrot in front of him and he resigned. Unfortunately for him COVID happened and Arum couldn't close the deal. It is a problem when you have a superstar at the weight and others are waiting for that chance.

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              • Originally posted by Curt Henning View Post

                wasnt it even bob arum who said "i dont know what koncz even does"? or maybe it was someone else that said that but i think it was bob....and all the talk about how all he did was cut up mannys steak for him lol......then of course there was koncz trying to manage other philipino fighters and cutting dirty deals with arum ....lol....its unreal....manny was just too naive...like i said, he was seeing checks he never thought were realistically possible and just never questioned sht
                His name is Atty. Franklin “Jeng” Gacal. He blasted Arum and Koncz all the time!

                Pacquiao Attorney Franklin Gacal Says Bob Arum Is Blocking the Mayweather-Pacquiao Fight

                http://thaboxingvoice.com/pacquiao-a...acquiao-fight/



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                • yeah whatever BOB, he bashed Mayweather after he left Top Rank as well so this was expected, just wait for it next he will be accusing Bud of ducking Josh Taylor

                  Would like to see him on FOX just like Spence getting the same Promotion as they build up towards they fight. Bud vs Thurman on FOX PPV would do very well. While Spence works his way back from this eye injury. If they do the fight now and Bud wins, he won't get any credit, people are just going to say "Well Spence Wasn't The Same After The Car Accident And Eye Injury...". Also too their fight should be for Undisputed and for ALL THE BELTS making it truly the mega fight that some believe it to be

                  I just don't see the point of being somehow HAPPY that one of the best Fighters P4P Currently is not a Draw...to me that makes the Fans and the Promoter that Promotes him look even worse. STFU demanding all these bigger fights when you don't even support the good fights that are actually made
                  Last edited by sicko; 12-10-2021, 03:12 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by tokon View Post

                    Yes, I get that, and was just sort of being a *devil's advocate"
                    ​​​​ I think Crawford is in a bit of a tight spot tbh.
                    Definitely in a tight spot. Time is not on his side. I saw in another thread someone suggested Mayweather to promote Bud. What ya think about that idea?

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                    • Originally posted by ELPacman View Post
                      I think it was a combination of not getting the fights Bud wanted that could generate more revenue AND the lack of Bud's personality. He's a tad dry when he speaks and comes off dull. Of course his fighting is a whole different story but again, in that situation, he requires the right dance partners. Heck, Pacquiao could barely speak English in the early going but he fought the right guys to make for hella entertaining fights. How could a foreigner have a bigger response than a domestic fighter of equal talent?
                      Come on bro, that's an easy one. Pacman has an entire country behind him, Crawford not so much. You ask a random casual on the street in the U.S. if they're going to watch Crawford vs Porter and they'll be like "Who? What fight? There's a fight?"

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