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  • Inspired
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    #21
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
    It won’t be an ordered purse split. Team Canelo will make Makabu an offer and he will bite their hands off. I doubt he even gets 20% tbh. Makabu will get a couple of million.

    As for the Whyte situation, I think they should order Whyte to fight Wilder in an eliminator. Whyte doesn’t deserve to be mandatory. Ducked eliminators, ducked direct title shots, ducked Wallin only last month. He’ll reject the Fury shot anyway so it’s all immaterial.

    1) he didnt duck either brezeal or ortiz. He has insisted on this point a few times, he's talked about he would have happily fought ortiz but ortiz didnt want it.
    plus, out of principle, the issue here is that ortiz had already had his mandatory fight. Why the fff was he in contention at all? who did ortiz or brezeale or stiverne need to fight to get that position?

    2) 'ducked title shots', that's because aj vs whyte 2 is going to happen regardless of anything else. AJ has said already he'll fight whyte again. it's like tyson fury vs chisora, it's someting they've said they'll do again. Plus, what does that have to do with Whyte's wbc position?

    3) was wallin in any kind of position or contention with the wbc before whyte handpicked him? so how can he duck him if he's later option out of that fight? plus, the doctor who confirmed whyte's injury aswell as surgery is credible. He works for Leicester City FC..he doesnt need dillian whyte's money when he's a surgeon for premier league footballers aswell as cricketers, rugby players etc, oh and he's represented the national rugby squad too. Once again you are talking complete bs.

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    • M312
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      #22
      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

      WTF?

      Not used loosely whatsoever.

      I said he turned down multiple eliminators.
      -He rejected an IBF Eliminator vs Pulev.
      -He rejected a WBC Eliminator vs Ortiz.
      Factually accurate.

      I said he rejected a direct title shot.
      - He rejected a WBA/IBF/WBO title shot vs Joshua.
      Factually accurate.

      I said he got knocked out in his second to last fight by a 40 yr old.
      -Whyte was knocked out in his second to last fight by Alexander Povetkin who was 40 years old.
      Again factually accurate.

      I said he failed two drugs test.
      -Whyte failed a drug test in 2012 for MHA.
      - Whyte failed a drugs test in 2019 for Dianabol.
      Yet again factually accurate.

      It’s clear who’s bias here and it’s not me.
      I don't think anyone really knows what happened. You can type it as if it's fact. Doesn't mean it's fact. It's just you trying to convince people it is. That's your agenda. All good.

      The point you cut out and want to avoid answering for whatever reason is that the WBC need to create a mandatory.

      Hate him or not, Whyte is the right man for it. And if not, someone has to be.

      It's time for the WBC champion to fight the highest contender/interim champion.

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        #23
        Originally posted by STREET CLEANER

        Maybe, just maybe he was trying to negotiate the sanctioning fees.
        Bingo. He's got the WBC to help him do it. That's not their job, they should just be picking the top ranked guy as a mandatory. Not putting someone two divisions lower as it.

        If Canelo was asking to be ranked top 10 so he can fight for the title, fair play, but mandatory from two divisions below?!

        Something stinks. The WBC are just dodgy af.

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          #24
          Originally posted by M312

          I don't think anyone really knows what happened. You can type it as if it's fact. Doesn't mean it's fact. It's just you trying to convince people it is. That's your agenda. All good.

          The point you cut out and want to avoid answering for whatever reason is that the WBC need to create a mandatory.

          Hate him or not, Whyte is the right man for it. And if not, someone has to be.

          It's time for the WBC champion to fight the highest contender/interim champion.


          People know exactly what happened. Everything I have said about Whyte is true beyond any reasonable doubt.

          -Both the IBF and WBC confirmed Whyte rejected the eliminators.
          -Whyte himself confirmed he rejected the AJ fight because he felt the money wasn’t good enough.
          -Povetkin knocked him out- I assume you saw it.
          -He failed two drug tests for MHA and then D-Bol that’s as factual as it gets.

          It is what it is… if Whyte gets made mandatory cool, but IMO he doesn’t deserve it based on those reasons.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Inspired


            1) he didnt duck either brezeal or ortiz. He has insisted on this point a few times, he's talked about he would have happily fought ortiz but ortiz didnt want it.
            plus, out of principle, the issue here is that ortiz had already had his mandatory fight. Why the fff was he in contention at all? who did ortiz or brezeale or stiverne need to fight to get that position?

            2) 'ducked title shots', that's because aj vs whyte 2 is going to happen regardless of anything else. AJ has said already he'll fight whyte again. it's like tyson fury vs chisora, it's someting they've said they'll do again. Plus, what does that have to do with Whyte's wbc position?

            3) was wallin in any kind of position or contention with the wbc before whyte handpicked him? so how can he duck him if he's later option out of that fight? plus, the doctor who confirmed whyte's injury aswell as surgery is credible. He works for Leicester City FC..he doesnt need dillian whyte's money when he's a surgeon for premier league footballers aswell as cricketers, rugby players etc, oh and he's represented the national rugby squad too. Once again you are talking complete bs.
            He refused to fight then but didn’t duck them? WTF?

            You Whyte fans are lunatics…

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              #26
              Originally posted by Inspired


              1) he didnt duck either brezeal or ortiz. He has insisted on this point a few times, he's talked about he would have happily fought ortiz but ortiz didnt want it.
              plus, out of principle, the issue here is that ortiz had already had his mandatory fight. Why the fff was he in contention at all? who did ortiz or brezeale or stiverne need to fight to get that position?

              2) 'ducked title shots', that's because aj vs whyte 2 is going to happen regardless of anything else. AJ has said already he'll fight whyte again. it's like tyson fury vs chisora, it's someting they've said they'll do again. Plus, what does that have to do with Whyte's wbc position?

              3) was wallin in any kind of position or contention with the wbc before whyte handpicked him? so how can he duck him if he's later option out of that fight? plus, the doctor who confirmed whyte's injury aswell as surgery is credible. He works for Leicester City FC..he doesnt need dillian whyte's money when he's a surgeon for premier league footballers aswell as cricketers, rugby players etc, oh and he's represented the national rugby squad too. Once again you are talking complete bs.
              Whyte didn’t duck Wallin which is purposely neglecting a fight you aren’t confident in winning but he avoided him for obvious reasons which was to secure a possible Fury fight .

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                #27
                Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT



                People know exactly what happened. Everything I have said about Whyte is true beyond any reasonable doubt.

                -Both the IBF and WBC confirmed Whyte rejected the eliminators.
                -Whyte himself confirmed he rejected the AJ fight because he felt the money wasn’t good enough.
                -Povetkin knocked him out- I assume you saw it.
                -He failed two drug tests for MHA and then D-Bol that’s as factual as it gets.

                It is what it is… if Whyte gets made mandatory cool, but IMO he doesn’t deserve it based on those reasons.
                Again, you are trying very hard to convince me about something you (nor me) have any idea about. And your dislike for the guy takes away any credibility for what you're typing anyway. Don't waste your energy, your agenda is transparent.

                I'm not even talking about Whyte anyway. I'm talking about the corrupt WBC.

                They need to make a mandatory now, Whyte just happens to be the guy who should be up next.

                And also, when they make mandatories in other divisions, it shouldn't be someone who had one fight in the division below multiple fights ago. It should be the highest ranked person in the division at the time.
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by M312

                  I don't think anyone really knows what happened. You can type it as if it's fact. Doesn't mean it's fact. It's just you trying to convince people it is. That's your agenda. All good.

                  The point you cut out and want to avoid answering for whatever reason is that the WBC need to create a mandatory.

                  Hate him or not, Whyte is the right man for it. And if not, someone has to be.

                  It's time for the WBC champion to fight the highest contender/interim champion.
                  It doesn’t have to be the ranked number one contender in the WBC it could be anyone at least in the top 10 or 15 not sure . I’m not sure if the WBC ever went out of its way to try and get a true highest rank to fight Wilder all those years ? Fury usually does go for a good fight despite no title defenses against a different opponent so hopefully it’s Joyce if not Whyte but I doubt he risks it .

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER

                    It doesn’t have to be the ranked number one contender in the WBC it could be anyone at least in the top 10 or 15 not sure . I’m not sure if the WBC ever went out of its way to try and get a true highest rank to fight Wilder all those years ? Fury usually does go for a good fight despite no title defenses against a different opponent so hopefully it’s Joyce if not Whyte but I doubt he risks it .
                    The mandatory should be the highest ranked.
                    Optional could be any top 15, but Wilder had years of this.

                    I'm sure Fury will fight a good fight. His contract is too large not to fight in a fight that sells at this point.

                    But the WBC have to make their champions face real mandatories, it's turning the sport into a mockery.

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                      #30
                      strange how canelo never requested the wbc for a beterbiev fight, in fact he kept saying how he was too small for 175.

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