I see you are very fond of GGG. For me rounds 8-12 GGG bit down on his gum shield and started to throw bombs. Prior to that round he was jabbing and moving which we are not accustomed to seeing with GGG .Of course he had plenty of success with the jab but it did not deter Canelo and for me he was walking GGG down and definitely forcing the action. in any case i will not change your view and you will not change mine so i bid you a good day
how many fights does GGG have left?
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He fought his entire professional career on the front foot . Yes he can box but he is a come forward wrecking machine. he will take 2 punches just to hit you. That fight i don't know if Canelo had lead in his gloves but GGG was not up to blocking punches with his face and fought very weary for the first 8 rounds especially by his lofty standards. Anyway it is what it is if they awarded GGG it wouldnt have made the slightest bit of difference to me i just thought Canelo shaded it but lost the first fight 7-5 if biased but 8-4 realistically
Yeah. I know. You're absolutely right. I don't get it; why there's all this hate for Golovkin. He hasn't done anything to cause it. He should be a favorite of every boxer. And we both aren't saying this because we're fans of Golovkin. Well, I'm a fan at least, but I'm also bluntly honest with all fighters, even those that I like. It's easy for me to grade purely on what happens in the ring. I can detach myself from my feelings. And Golovkin just outworked Canelo. Like you said, he landed the more effective punches.
And this whole narrative of Golovkin backing up is ludicrous. He was moving laterally a lot of the time, taking angles. People think of Golovkin as this puncher that's oafish in his fighting style. But that is so far from the truth. He used to be a decorated amateur who knows exactly how to box on the back foot and there front foot.Comment
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I might watch that fight one more time and score it again. But I'm not surprised that he was a little more wary of Canelo. It's just obvious that Canelo hit the HGH for that second fight, so I know he was stronger than before.
He fought his entire professional career on the front foot . Yes he can box but he is a come forward wrecking machine. he will take 2 punches just to hit you. That fight i don't know if Canelo had lead in his gloves but GGG was not up to blocking punches with his face and fought very weary for the first 8 rounds especially by his lofty standards. Anyway it is what it is if they awarded GGG it wouldnt have made the slightest bit of difference to me i just thought Canelo shaded it but lost the first fight 7-5 if biased but 8-4 realistically
Anyway, I'm going to watch that fight again and post my scorecard with notes.Comment
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Well said. That dude don't know how to score fights.
Out landed by the jab perhaps but power shots scored, Canelo out landed him. GGG corner did not judge the fight the way you scored it. I had it 7-5 Canelo and at the time i was a fan of neither. If the fight was awarded a draw i would have had no complaints but 8-4 either way is a bit far fetchedComment
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Exactly. Ggg changed his entire style. That because Canelo ring generalship.
He fought his entire professional career on the front foot . Yes he can box but he is a come forward wrecking machine. he will take 2 punches just to hit you. That fight i don't know if Canelo had lead in his gloves but GGG was not up to blocking punches with his face and fought very weary for the first 8 rounds especially by his lofty standards. Anyway it is what it is if they awarded GGG it wouldnt have made the slightest bit of difference to me i just thought Canelo shaded it but lost the first fight 7-5 if biased but 8-4 realisticallyComment
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I think he probably has 2 fights left, max 3 fights. I don't rate Murata very high but he's tough and can make things physical. I think that may be a grueling fight for GGG that takes even more tread off those tires.
Hopefully he can use that to get one more decent payday before he's done.Last edited by PBR Streetgang; 10-03-2021, 07:44 PM.Comment
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Agree 100% man. At least we get it. You don't win 90% of your rounds in all your fights unless you're a great technical boxer. It's a shame people overlook that with him.
Yeah. I know. You're absolutely right. I don't get it; why there's all this hate for Golovkin. He hasn't done anything to cause it. He should be a favorite of every boxer. And we both aren't saying this because we're fans of Golovkin. Well, I'm a fan at least, but I'm also bluntly honest with all fighters, even those that I like. It's easy for me to grade purely on what happens in the ring. I can detach myself from my feelings. And Golovkin just outworked Canelo. Like you said, he landed the more effective punches.
And this whole narrative of Golovkin backing up is ludicrous. He was moving laterally a lot of the time, taking angles. People think of Golovkin as this puncher that's oafish in his fighting style. But that is so far from the truth. He used to be a decorated amateur who knows exactly how to box on the back foot and there front foot.
It's a shame as well that people don't appreciate more the things he did well vs Canelo in those 2 fights. Canelo fought well at times, and is fighting great right now. He still got beat in both fights. And that's because GGG is a really really really good fighter. His use and effectiveness of the jab are unreal, honestly the best I've seen on that punch pfp, and it is the most important punch in boxing.Comment
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If you watched GGG when he faces someone who can punch, he boxes behind the jab lol. It's boxing 101 man. The jab judges and controls distance, and if you're landing it, you can control the fight! Basics.
I see you are very fond of GGG. For me rounds 8-12 GGG bit down on his gum shield and started to throw bombs. Prior to that round he was jabbing and moving which we are not accustomed to seeing with GGG .Of course he had plenty of success with the jab but it did not deter Canelo and for me he was walking GGG down and definitely forcing the action. in any case i will not change your view and you will not change mine so i bid you a good day
As I said, in any round, not just for the entire fight - but pick any round, and it's a hard sell to try and claim Canelo got a clear round in either fight. He would land a solid combo and then GGG would land the next 3 punches in the round. He hits hard with the jab, it's a very easy punch to score and credit.
GGG is a great fighter. I am not really 'fond' of any fighter. I respect all of them pretty much. He did beat Canelo in both fights. He beat Jacobs as well. You can argue he didn't perform to expectations in those fights but he still won. Anything else is crazy.
Derevychenko was a close fight and he was probably the worse man in that fight but he scored the KD and probably got to 6 and max 7 rounds in that fight. He got outworked himself in that fight in many rounds but he landed some huge punches too that kept him in the rounds. That was his only real close fight in his career. If acknowledging a great fighter and treating him fairly is being 'fond' of them then yeah sure thing.Comment
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GGG outlanded Canelo in 6 of the first 8 rounds according to compubox. For a total of a 26 punch advantage in those rounds. He outlanded him in all of the first 5 rounds, for a total of a 30 punch advantage.
He fought his entire professional career on the front foot . Yes he can box but he is a come forward wrecking machine. he will take 2 punches just to hit you. That fight i don't know if Canelo had lead in his gloves but GGG was not up to blocking punches with his face and fought very weary for the first 8 rounds especially by his lofty standards. Anyway it is what it is if they awarded GGG it wouldnt have made the slightest bit of difference to me i just thought Canelo shaded it but lost the first fight 7-5 if biased but 8-4 realistically
What fight were you watching exactly?Comment
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