how many fights does GGG have left?

[Boxing-1013]

Hey thanks man. It's kind of funny how people score these fights or even talk about them. Dougie Fischer, Editor-in-Chief for the Ring Magazine, was giving rounds to Canelo that I thought were strange. I always thought that he was a Golovkin fan. Maybe he is, but the things he had been saying were odd. He gave round three to Canelo, which is just strange.

Also, for people spending so much time in boxing, they seem to not understand what was actually happening. This narrative that GGG was backing up and that that was somehow bad just blows my mind. He had the reach advantage, so he was controlling distance by not allowing Canelo to get in mid-range or on the inside, which is what Canelo wanted and had to do in order to have success. So GGG's plan was to deny him that, staying on the outside with jabs and straights. It's Boxing 101. But somehow that flew over everyone's heads.

You have other boxers do this all the time, like Floyd Mayweather or Sugar Ray Leonard or even Ali. They always fought that way, on the outside, turning the other guy. No one said they were backing away. But somehow GGG does it and he's backing away.

The hypocrisy in boxing never cease to amaze me.

Yep well said man. I think a big issue for GGG on a forum like this - is he is some guy from BFE Kazakstan. If he looked different or was from a different part of the world, he would get much more acclaim on here. Just the way it is really. People on here are so tribal that it is hard for them to be objective about a lot of fights and fighters. They are desperate to see what they want to see with most fighters (and fights).

[Nash out]

I'd like to think a few, but I think he's on a fight-by-fight basis. A middle weight his age is like a HW aged 45. Nash out.

[Boxing-1013]

Compubox Then Deverenchko should have beat GGG if we are going by that even with the Knockdown. With COMPUBOX who needs judges? I watched the same fight the judges watched.....Yes the corrupt judges and the commentators and myself who are also corrupt, that had Canelo winning

Derervy-GGG punch stats were very even actually. Yes sometimes compubox gets it wrong, but they more or less get it right. I will certainly use them as a source if their numbers more or less back up what I saw. I never saw one round in either fight that Canelo outlanded GGG - by my count - by more than maybe 1 or 2 punches.

Did you see any rounds like that? If so please let me know so I can watch them again. I didn't see any rounds where Canelo outlanded GGG by a few punches AND scored the best shots of the round - that would be a clear round for someone. If you saw any like that, again please let me know.

[Boxing-1013]

Please tell me this is your scoring for the First Canelo vs GGG fight? You are deluded if this is your scoring for the second fight. In fact let me take that back you are generally a solid poster and i enjoy reading your post but you are slightly misguided here. Even the first fight that i admittedly had GGG WINNING 8-4 . How can the second fight that universally even GGG fans admitted that Canelo was so more competitive and you had Canelo winning just 3 rounds?

Teddy Atlas had fight 2 - 8-3-1 for GGG. What does he know about boxing?

[Shadoww702]

Teddy Atlas had fight 2 - 8-3-1 for GGG. What does he know about boxing?

And Abel Sanchez said he had no problem with the judges. Atlas is a blowhard who likes to say outlandish sht.

Most fighters and trainers said Canelo won. RJJ even crowned yhe SHT out of GGG....

[Shadoww702]

Derervy-GGG punch stats were very even actually. Yes sometimes compubox gets it wrong, but they more or less get it right. I will certainly use them as a source if their numbers more or less back up what I saw. I never saw one round in either fight that Canelo outlanded GGG - by my count - by more than maybe 1 or 2 punches.

Did you see any rounds like that? If so please let me know so I can watch them again. I didn't see any rounds where Canelo outlanded GGG by a few punches AND scored the best shots of the round - that would be a clear round for someone. If you saw any like that, again please let me know.

We get it. You go straight to boxingrec. And compubox to pick winners are look how good/bad fighters are.

U fkn LOST! Judges got it right. Even ggg RAN out the ring CRYING almost as bad as u are doing...

[Boxing-1013]

And Abel Sanchez said he had no problem with the judges. Atlas is a blowhard who likes to say outlandish sht.

Most fighters and trainers said Canelo won. RJJ even crowned yhe SHT out of GGG....

Almost none of that is true lol

[Boxing-1013]

We get it. You go straight to boxingrec. And compubox to pick winners are look how good/bad fighters are.

U fkn LOST! Judges got it right. Even ggg RAN out the ring CRYING almost as bad as u are doing...

? GGG just outworked him in both fights man. They weren't hard to score or really debatable tbh. 2 competitive fights where one guy is more active and won the fights comfortably.

I never once have cared at all about the official decisions. I knew what was coming the whole time in both fights - that Byrd scorecard wasn't even at all surprising lol

[Noelanthony]

Teddy Atlas had fight 2 - 8-3-1 for GGG. What does he know about boxing?

Lets not debate who had who, as there were several trainers ,boxing Analyst, judges , former/current boxers that had Canelo but what does that prove?

[Cypocryphy]

Yep well said man. I think a big issue for GGG on a forum like this - is he is some guy from BFE Kazakstan. If he looked different or was from a different part of the world, he would get much more acclaim on here. Just the way it is really. People on here are so tribal that it is hard for them to be objective about a lot of fights and fighters. They are desperate to see what they want to see with most fighters (and fights).

Thanks man. Oh sure, he'd have a better following had he been from the UK or the US. Honestly, had he been from the UK, he would have an entire country behind him. He's also not one for talking. He says very few words, even in his native language, and that's hard to market.

Anyway, I'm kind of tripping right now. Here are the official scorecards:
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They all gave the first round to Golovkin, and I'm not sure how that's possible. I mean, it was a very close first round, but I think Canelo edged that. Everyone seems to have scored that for Golovkin, and if you score the fight again, I'm curious as to how you scored the first round. And if anyone knows what the justification had been for all judges giving the first round to GGG, I'd love to know. I suppose it was so close that maybe they gave it to the champion. But for me, I think Canelo did more, landed a couple more clean shots and was able to slip most of GGG's punches will applying pressure.

I don't know man. Freedman gave the 12th to GGG but the others gave it to Canelo. I suppose it's the angle at which one sits. Or the side, rather. I've always thought that it's much easier to score a fight from a TV than sitting at ringside because we get to see all the various camera angles. In that respect, our scorecards should be more accurate than the judges.

I can see several of these rounds being swing rounds, but giving any of the later rounds to Canelo, except for the 12th because Gennady landed a lot of uppercuts, seems strange. I suppose those blows, however, can be hard to see if you're sitting at a bad angle.

Either way, when I look online at how people scored this fight, I see the majority thinking that Gennady won or, at the very least, that it should be a draw. I don't see too many saying that Canelo rightfully won. The only difference is that everyone said it was much closer than the first fight.

lol Man, it's been several years since I've really thought about this fight.