how many fights does GGG have left?

[Noelanthony]

I just agreed with him more or less on that one. His analysis was pretty sound. I don't agree with anyone 100% of the time in this sport. For the record he picked Canelo to win going into that fight as well

Fair enough. For the record i picked Lomachenko beating Teofimo but i scored the fight 8-4 , 7-5 at worst to Teofimo. I have this feeling you scored the fight a draw?

[paulf]

Pretty much done. The Murata fight is a cashout.

If he somehow wins, he'll look to further cashout against Canelo or maybe a gimmick payday like Anderson Silva.

His career is done, he's just collecting checks until he loses.

[tritium_arma]

Rumor is Murata will be his last. I think he might lose it.

[Boxing-1013]

Fair enough. For the record i picked Lomachenko beating Teofimo but i scored the fight 8-4 , 7-5 at worst to Teofimo. I have this feeling you scored the fight a draw?

Excuse me? No Loma would have been lucky to get to 5 rounds in that fight. Nice try, but I'm one of the few guys on here who doesn't score along tribal lines.

I'll remember that little dig though, says a lot about you!!

[Noelanthony]

Excuse me? No Loma would have been lucky to get to 5 rounds in that fight. Nice try, but I'm one of the few guys on here who doesn't score along tribal lines.

I'll remember that little dig though, says a lot about you!!

Hey i have to get a feel of who I'm talking to

WARD VS KOVALEV 1
PAC VS JEFF HORN
PORTER VS UGAS
FURY VS WILDER 1

Now if you can tell me who you had winning and your scores. We don't see eye to eye but you are honest, somewhat impartial.

[Boxing-1013]

Hey i have to get a feel of who I'm talking to

WARD VS KOVALEV 1
PAC VS JEFF HORN
PORTER VS UGAS
FURY VS WILDER 1

Now if you can tell me who you had winning and your scores. We don't see eye to eye but you are honest, somewhat impartial.

8-4 Kovalev - not even close, complete robbery decision. Kovalev was up 5-1 (6-0 was better than 4-2) and the last 6 rounds were probably 3-3. 4 rounds to Ward is probably overly fair.

No issue with Horn winning, I think I had it 7-5 to Horn but could see a draw. Horn used his size well in that fight, I don't think he got too dirty at all really. Was a physical fight where he used his advantages well.

Never really scored it but my feeling was Ugas was the better man that night. Seemed close but again never scored it.

One of the few apparently who had that a draw. First 6 rounds I had even, then the last 6 Fury dominated but he got dropped twice. So a draw is what I had and I think it was fair. I could see 8-4 to Fury as well though, getting him a win.

The first 3 I watched live, the last one I watched the next day on Youtube.

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How about you?

[Noelanthony]

8-4 Kovalev - not even close, complete robbery decision. Kovalev was up 5-1 (6-0 was better than 4-2) and the last 6 rounds were probably 3-3. 4 rounds to Ward is probably overly fair.

No issue with Horn winning, I think I had it 7-5 to Horn but could see a draw. Horn used his size well in that fight, I don't think he got too dirty at all really. Was a physical fight where he used his advantages well.

Never really scored it but my feeling was Ugas was the better man that night. Seemed close but again never scored it.

One of the few apparently who had that a draw. First 6 rounds I had even, then the last 6 Fury dominated but he got dropped twice. So a draw is what I had and I think it was fair. I could see 8-4 to Fury as well though, getting him a win.

The first 3 I watched live, the last one I watched the next day on Youtube.

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How about you?

7-5 kovalev even though I'm a huge Ward fan. I agree with all your verdicts of the fights. I had Fury winning but with 2 knockdowns and i vividly recall Wilder winning a round early, a draw is feasible

[Cypocryphy]

Excuse me? No Loma would have been lucky to get to 5 rounds in that fight. Nice try, but I'm one of the few guys on here who doesn't score along tribal lines.

I'll remember that little dig though, says a lot about you!!

I'm going to step in here. I have Lomachenko vs Lopez as a draw. So too did a lot of otters who know boxing very well. And then on closer inspection, it was clear that some of those punches I thought Teofimo landed were actually blocked. He punches so quickly that it's hard to tell. But after the fact, it was clear he hadn't landed many of his punches. In fact, Teofimo's best round was the last round because he connected cleanly a couple of times.

I always score a fight on clean, effective punches. The other criteria come into play based on that first criterium. Aggression is only effective when the punches are landing cleanly. Ring generalship is not necessarily the one that is controlling the center of the ring, and you can't be the general if you aren't landing cleanly. And if the punches are not clean, then they are not effective. The one who has the better defense tends to make the other boxer not land cleanly, so again, it can't be effective.

If you think that fight was well in Teofimo's favor, I suggest you watch it again because there are things that you missed (addressing anyone reading this).

[Boxing-1013]

I'm going to step in here. I have Lomachenko vs Lopez as a draw. So too did a lot of otters who know boxing very well. And then on closer inspection, it was clear that some of those punches I thought Teofimo landed were actually blocked. He punches so quickly that it's hard to tell. But after the fact, it was clear he hadn't landed many of his punches. In fact, Teofimo's best round was the last round because he connected cleanly a couple of times.

I always score a fight on clean, effective punches. The other criteria come into play based on that first criterium. Aggression is only effective when the punches are landing cleanly. Ring generalship is not necessarily the one that is controlling the center of the ring, and you can't be the general if you aren't landing cleanly. And if the punches are not clean, then they are not effective. The one who has the better defense tends to make the other boxer not land cleanly, so again, it can't be effective.

If you think that fight was well in Teofimo's favor, I suggest you watch it again because there are things that you missed (addressing anyone reading this).

I feel like Teo won the first 6 or so by default. I didn't see Loma throwing many punches at all in those rounds. There were a couple rounds where I don't know if I had him throwing a a punch at all.

I thought he had Teo on the ropes a couple times late but couldn't quite get it done. Props to Loma for taking that fight and not draining or waiting out Lopez however. Most guys would have avoided that one, or given Teo a poison pill before the fight.

[Cypocryphy]

I feel like Teo won the first 6 or so by default. I didn't see Loma throwing many punches at all in those rounds. There were a couple rounds where I don't know if I had him throwing a a punch at all.

I thought he had Teo on the ropes a couple times late but couldn't quite get it done. Props to Loma for taking that fight and not draining or waiting out Lopez however. Most guys would have avoided that one, or given Teo a poison pill before the fight.

There are some interesting videos out there on this subject. I don't know how much you want to entertain this, but this guy put out a good video that points out some things, just on the rounds that Loma says he won.

There's another one on the 12th round, where the guy goes over the rules again and whatnot. That one is very interesting too. I do recommend watching them when you get a chance. It might not change your mind but you never know.