LMAO at these guys - Joshua Predictions; Add more here

[dan_cov]

I was wrong usyk is too good and I put my hand up as for being aggressive only to wankers like you......nothing is aid in that post you quoted was wrong....now usyk has proven he can take a heavyweights punch and also still fight for 12 rounds and i doubt any other heavyweight can beat him

It was to many on here but respect for admitting you were wrong, most wouldn't.

[mlac]

Usyks going to get crushed .

juggernutter should have many more gems in his post history

[Lomadeaux]

Robbie and **** em, two of the dumbest posters here... Lol. But to be fair: its customery to have a thread where people can choose to eat their crow...

No way. Robbie is way up there but Siablo is there... BigFatDunn is up there. MotorCityHoBruh is up there... The Mental brothers (chollo & travesty) definitely. But the thing is.. if you actually had a conversation with these people in real life... as I've said a thousand times before.. you'd feel like an idiot for entertaining it. You'd feel like you're arguing with a 5th grader. Some of these guys are true sociopaths.

[Lomadeaux]

TBF we all get predictions wrong ...........But fook Robbie the R3tard ...

This one was ridiculous though.

[4truth]

Anybody who is not surprised today is a fool if you did not bet heavily on Usyk. Free money.

frankly, I was shocked!

[Toffee]

Crowing over a prediction is pathetic. If it was that obvious there wouldn't be any gloating posts today - they'd be busy planning how to spend their life changing winnings.

The ones who deserve ridicule are the ones who said Usyk had zero chance. And that, typically, wasn't people who support AJ.

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I was wrong usyk is too good and I put my hand up as for being aggressive only to wankers like you......nothing is aid in that post you quoted was wrong....now usyk has proven he can take a heavyweights punch and also still fight for 12 rounds and i doubt any other heavyweight can beat him

Just admit that Joshua isn't the special fighter you thought he was.

I told you pal, he's always been overrated, an accident waiting to happen. He looked scared to death in there as usual.

[Brother Mouzone]

This one was ridiculous though.

LOL I wrote in the fight thread that under normal circumstances I would be rooting for Usyk , but I wanted to see AJ vs Tyson that would of been the biggest most hyped HW fights we would of had in along while ..But Usyk is GOATED ..

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AJ fans be looking like this.

[billeau2]

I've noticed in the MMA and boxing gym I train at that no one really makes much of a fuss about Joshua. Wilder sometimes and deffo Fury. But no one talks about Joshua like a kind of fighter to emulate.

I think its because Joshua, kinda to his credit, is cleverly marketed to the kind of dork like BangEM who would find the typical personality of the garden variety boxer kind of intimidating. Joshua's fanfare comes from the fact that his appeal is almost antithetical to his boxing talent. Problem is, boxing is a tightrope. You have to balance being marketable/likeable with the kind of killer instinct or edge that makes one good at beating down another man. Almost everyone who steps foot in the ring has some kind **** going in their head which makes them want to engage in beating other grown men in the face. And it's never nice. It's almost always something ****ed up or problematic.

The very thing that pushed Joshua's KO artist image into the stratosphere is now eating into him. He's losing his edge. He's successful and adored (at least for the most part). But that's not enough to be great. I actually think there is more to come from him, I imagine this performance will cause many more to turn on him. I think this will bring out a more impressive FIGHTER. Instead of the second boxer he has been trying to be for two years now.

I think there are two fundamental problems that Joshua needs to overcome.

1) He has to define his "way." I may be nuts (just ask my family lol) but I maintain that the second Ruiz fight was more damaging to Joshua than the first. You would never have a puncher at heavyweight do what he did... can you imagine Foreman after Zaire deciding to box Ali? You can't dabble at this level. Boxing skills are great, and you work on them... but to make yourself a boxer because you don't trust your punch, it set a dangerous precedent. Again, by way of example: Liston was a master boxer, one of the best boxing heavyweights IMO, but he didn't win his fights trying to outbox his opponent.

Joshua has to decide what he is and perfect it. Its kinda the opposite problem of Wilder lol. If I am Joshua I learn how to set up my punches and let my hands go, include fighting inside... which fighters can't do these days. Is he strong enough to impose himself on an opponent? That remains to be seen. Actual strength in fighting is different than people think. Take a muscle mass like AJ, or Klitsko. They are physically strong, but are they strong the same way someone like Holyfield is? Holly was trained to literally push Tyson off his base of weight coming in to unbalance him... Bowe was another fighter who was big and also strong, able to impose himself.

2) Its just the skill level these days. These guys have no real developed skills aside from punching from one distance. They cannot fight in ranges, use complex footwork, understand angles and feints. All the things that fighters did when the heavyweight division was talented. Usyk, like James Toney, and Fury is an exception... He has mastered skills from all ranges and is actually strong, able to impose himself... watch Usyk against Hunter to see how Usyk depends on imposing himself to do all the things he does well...

I feel bad for A.J. He did the best he could and was talented enough to do a few things to Usyk... I don't see him getting better though. He is too tentative to fight Wilder and Fury would be a repeat of Usyk, Fury is also a throwback fighter who knows how to be strong and use his heft.