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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #31
    I didn't foresee this result at all based on Usyk's previous heavyweight fights. But I don't think I was too aggressive towards anyone about it.

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      #32
      I didn't make a hardline prediction but I said I thought Usyk was probably too small. Was glad to be proven wrong, though.

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        #33
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT
        Surely Redeemer made a wacky prediction too.
        well... I don't think predictions for AJ were necessarily Wacky. There are levels to this game, understanding what will probably happen. The casinos liked AJ, and usually in a fight like this, the consensus on the board is correct. I do think people fail to understand how weak this division is right now. A throwback fighter like Usyk or Fury has a tremendous advantage.

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          #34
          Originally posted by The plunger man
          I was wrong usyk is too good and I put my hand up as for being aggressive only to wankers like you......nothing is aid in that post you quoted was wrong....now usyk has proven he can take a heavyweights punch and also still fight for 12 rounds and i doubt any other heavyweight can beat him
          Good on ya Plunger man... No one gets it right all the time.

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          • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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            #35
            Originally posted by mlac

            juggernutter should have many more gems in his post history
            I forgot about that guy, he will be reeling.

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              #36
              I love the look on Hearn's face in the pic above. Priceless.

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                #37
                Originally posted by billeau2

                I think there are two fundamental problems that Joshua needs to overcome.

                1) He has to define his "way." I may be nuts (just ask my family lol) but I maintain that the second Ruiz fight was more damaging to Joshua than the first. You would never have a puncher at heavyweight do what he did... can you imagine Foreman after Zaire deciding to box Ali? You can't dabble at this level. Boxing skills are great, and you work on them... but to make yourself a boxer because you don't trust your punch, it set a dangerous precedent. Again, by way of example: Liston was a master boxer, one of the best boxing heavyweights IMO, but he didn't win his fights trying to outbox his opponent.

                Joshua has to decide what he is and perfect it. Its kinda the opposite problem of Wilder lol. If I am Joshua I learn how to set up my punches and let my hands go, include fighting inside... which fighters can't do these days. Is he strong enough to impose himself on an opponent? That remains to be seen. Actual strength in fighting is different than people think. Take a muscle mass like AJ, or Klitsko. They are physically strong, but are they strong the same way someone like Holyfield is? Holly was trained to literally push Tyson off his base of weight coming in to unbalance him... Bowe was another fighter who was big and also strong, able to impose himself.

                2) Its just the skill level these days. These guys have no real developed skills aside from punching from one distance. They cannot fight in ranges, use complex footwork, understand angles and feints. All the things that fighters did when the heavyweight division was talented. Usyk, like James Toney, and Fury is an exception... He has mastered skills from all ranges and is actually strong, able to impose himself... watch Usyk against Hunter to see how Usyk depends on imposing himself to do all the things he does well...

                I feel bad for A.J. He did the best he could and was talented enough to do a few things to Usyk... I don't see him getting better though. He is too tentative to fight Wilder and Fury would be a repeat of Usyk, Fury is also a throwback fighter who knows how to be strong and use his heft.
                Thank **** some posters here have sense. I agree with this entirely. The second part especially. British boxing has this problem especially. Its why I don't think any of the British heavyweights, bar Joyce (who was already outclassed by Usyk), will fair well at all. They find these big guys who can punch but can do **** all else. They all seem massively uncoordinated and lacking in head movement and footwork. I saw the same thing from Frazer Clarke in the Olympics. I agree there was nothing Joshua could have done to better that performance.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

                  Thank **** some posters here have sense. I agree with this entirely. The second part especially. British boxing has this problem especially. Its why I don't think any of the British heavyweights, bar Joyce (who was already outclassed by Usyk), will fair well at all. They find these big guys who can punch but can do **** all else. They all seem massively uncoordinated and lacking in head movement and footwork. I saw the same thing from Frazer Clarke in the Olympics. I agree there was nothing Joshua could have done to better that performance.
                  Can you imagine how boxing would be... if all it took was a great punch?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by BoxingIsGreat
                    I love the look on Hearn's face in the pic above. Priceless.
                    Haha. Wasn't this Joshua's last fight with Sky too? I wonder how the Sky/DAZN bidding war will go now.

                    Also, this means that the Fury/Wilder 3 winner will have to fight Whyte next if they want to keep the WBC belt.

                    A lot of interesting developments. Hearn probably wants to kill that Fury/Wilder arbitrator right now. He was that close to two Fury/Joshua financial windfalls.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT

                      I forgot about that guy, he will be reeling.
                      i love him, he is utterly insane. posting for years exclusively about how AJ beats everyone past and present, he will always have my favourite quote of all time on here, ' AJ is the goat' yes, he really said AJ was the greatest boxer of all time!

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