Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk's Promoter Feels His Boxer is Now a Natural Heavyweight

[Nash out]

Although Usyk just edged past Chisora, it could be argued that Chisora would beat Joshua. Chisora has wins over Whyte 1, Helenius, Takam, Malik King Scott, and others, and has the chin, physical strength, and punch power to KO Femi back into his old Breaking Bad lifestyle. Nash is calling it here, Usyk wins by KO, and in England he is 7-1 betting odds to do so. Nash out.

[Oldskoolg]

Joshua - Parker was not close at all. Joshua boxed his face off easily and that was Joshua just been too cautious, if AJ had chosen to be ruthless Parker would have been knocked down or knocked out....

Regarding Joshua - Usyk I see Joshua winning this fight but I don't know how but AJ is going to win

Boxed his face off? We must have seen a different fight

[tokon]

I hope he’s not on that Fury and Canelo diet because you don’t transition from looking shaky in weight to being a natural within a few months.

In the absence of verifiable random testing, and the widespread use of PED's, I'll reserve judgement on the "natural" part that one!

[BangEM]

In the absence of verifiable random testing, and the widespread use of PED's, I'll reserve judgement on the "natural" part that one!

I don’t think there’s WADA testing (not the *****ty WBC one, the usual 3 months one that AJ does) for the fight. But UKAD would get him if he tries anything dodgy.

[IAMTHAT]

It’s going to be very intersting if Usyk can move and give angles. The Parker fight was much closer than the scores showed and Parker isn’t a world beater and took his foot off the gas. If Usyk can take the shots or better yet isn’t there to be hit, it’s going to get real intersting really quickly. The first two rounds will have a lot to say about how the rest of the fight will go

Actually i disagree, i fee like Usyk always makes me question his abilities the first three rounds and starts getting better and better from round 4 on.

[IAMTHAT]

This whole statement doesnt make sense.

He can't "now" be a natural heavyweight. If he was a "natural heavyweight" he would have always been one, thats what natural means in this case: its what nature predetermined him to be. He could have grown into it, but if he was a natural heavyweight he would have always been one.

not if you add in mexican meat and finish it with some tea, and all of the sudden the boys' a natural. I hope he is not PEDing. He called it nasty stuff, i hope he stands by his words bc i do like him

[IAMTHAT]

Although Usyk just edged past Chisora, it could be argued that Chisora would beat Joshua. Chisora has wins over Whyte 1, Helenius, Takam, Malik King Scott, and others, and has the chin, physical strength, and punch power to KO Femi back into his old Breaking Bad lifestyle. Nash is calling it here, Usyk wins by KO, and in England he is 7-1 betting odds to do so. Nash out.

Usyk TKO 11

[billeau2]

It’s going to be very intersting if Usyk can move and give angles. The Parker fight was much closer than the scores showed and Parker isn’t a world beater and took his foot off the gas. If Usyk can take the shots or better yet isn’t there to be hit, it’s going to get real intersting really quickly. The first two rounds will have a lot to say about how the rest of the fight will go

Usyk has fought at heavyweight Including in other events like the World Series of boxing, where he fought Joyce, etc. He has familiarity with the fundamentals of moving up in weight. I think the issue for Usyk Is being able to do the things that he does well, without having to just get on a bicycle to avoid Joshua, or any opponent. For whatever reason Usyk looked horrible against Chisora and it made him go to the drawing board.

I find it remarkable that Usyk was willing to not take his Chisora performance at face value. He knew better... Chisora is a solid opponent and was able to clip Usyk moving straight back a few times... I could feel the gears moving in Usyk's head lol... "I need to get enough physical strength so I can stand my ground, be physical against a larger opponent."

Even when a fighter uses angles, fundamentally he is still going backwards and must be able to do so judiciously to set up the angles. Otherwise you fade back and risk getting clipped, or overpowered because a person running forward will always move faster than someone moving back.

[billeau2]

This whole statement doesnt make sense.

He can't "now" be a natural heavyweight. If he was a "natural heavyweight" he would have always been one, thats what natural means in this case: its what nature predetermined him to be. He could have grown into it, but if he was a natural heavyweight he would have always been one.

That is absolutely true. Its basically a semantic foul up but it sets people up for a misunderstanding.

[Zelda]

Usyk is NOT a natural HW and will "become" one. He is a cruiserweight. He can gain weight and beat a few HW but he will always struggle against the top guys. Joshua wins this easily as Usyk ain't gonna hurt AJ. And AJ is far more skilled and agile compared to Chisora so Usyk ain't gonna survive the entire 12 rounds to win on points.

There is a good chance AJ wins around the 6th round, (or make it between 5-8) but he most probably wins by KO whichever round it is. Usyk is no Holyfield and no Ruiz Jr either. He can neither take heavy punches and survive nor does he have a one-punch KO power. For Usyk to win (by decision), he will have to evade every single power punch from AJ while outscoring him on points which means he hits AJ and doesn't get hit every time he comes well within range since AJ has the height and reach advantages. And to win by KO or TKO, Usyk will have to give AJ a sustained beating while avoiding his punches.

None of these scenarios are possible which is why I believe this is going to be an easy win for AJ.