Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk's Promoter Feels His Boxer is Now a Natural Heavyweight

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  • REDEEMER
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    #31
    Usyk can defeat most ,AJ won’t be one of the most . I have a feeling Usyk will go fight for the Bridgerweight title after he losses unless it’s a close fight which I don’t see .

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    • DeeMoney
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      #32
      Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake
      1. Usyk is taller then fay boy Ruiz.
      2. Based on his latest instagram pictures he is definatly bigger, muscled up and toned.
      3. Usyk is more mobile then Ruiz or Parker.
      4. His ring IQ is through the roof, + Papachenko in his corner.

      But AJ is not a slouch and in his prime.
      Phenomenal shape, smart, fast, kicks like a mule, nice jab and deadly uppers. Rooting for my dog Usyk but chances of him winning are slim. It could turn into Loma vs Lopez where size and power plays a major role. Hopefully he could suprise us all.

      Still win or lose, big respect to Usyk for stepping up to the big dog lile Anthony Joshua.

      WAR USYK
      I think its more that Usyk never showed that he had the style to fight as the smaller man. You can be a successful modern heavyweight at Usyk's size, but most of them fight a certain way (inside fighters, or pressure fighters, or swarmers). I just don't see that as something Usyk has done- maybe he will though.

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        #33
        Originally posted by DeeMoney
        This whole statement doesnt make sense.

        He can't "now" be a natural heavyweight. If he was a "natural heavyweight" he would have always been one, thats what natural means in this case: its what nature predetermined him to be. He could have grown into it, but if he was a natural heavyweight he would have always been one.
        That's what I was thinking! I can see a LHW filling out to HW in his early 20's at the latest and still be considered a natural HW. But at 34? Nah, he had to build up to it.

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          #34
          Boxing is the art of defense, lol hope not like Loma vs Lopez

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            #35
            Originally posted by Zelda
            Usyk is NOT a natural HW and will "become" one. He is a cruiserweight. He can gain weight and beat a few HW but he will always struggle against the top guys. Joshua wins this easily as Usyk ain't gonna hurt AJ. And AJ is far more skilled and agile compared to Chisora so Usyk ain't gonna survive the entire 12 rounds to win on points.

            There is a good chance AJ wins around the 6th round, (or make it between 5-8) but he most probably wins by KO whichever round it is. Usyk is no Holyfield and no Ruiz Jr either. He can neither take heavy punches and survive nor does he have a one-punch KO power. For Usyk to win (by decision), he will have to evade every single power punch from AJ while outscoring him on points which means he hits AJ and doesn't get hit every time he comes well within range since AJ has the height and reach advantages. And to win by KO or TKO, Usyk will have to give AJ a sustained beating while avoiding his punches.

            None of these scenarios are possible which is why I believe this is going to be an easy win for AJ.
            However, for your envisaged scenerios to materialise Joshua has to have enough confidence in his chin to actually step forward which brings the risk of getting clipped moving in.
            ​​​in.
            Even against Parker, who's not a particularly big puncher, Joshua was reluctant and the Ruiz rematch he basically ran away.
            It will be interesting to see what Joshua's tactics are going to be for usyk.

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              #36
              Usyk's promoter is hyping the fight. What else can he say? "My guy's a pumped up CW who couldn't dominate a guy with 8 losses?"

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                #37
                Originally posted by Dare7

                Joshua - Parker was not close at all. Joshua boxed his face off easily and that was Joshua just been too cautious, if AJ had chosen to be ruthless Parker would have been knocked down or knocked out....

                Regarding Joshua - Usyk I see Joshua winning this fight but I don't know how but AJ is going to win
                Glass jaw AJ would have got knocked out of he tried being ruthless, just like ruiz did to him.

                AJ spent entire Parker fight hiding behind ref, and telling ref when he was ready for his mid round time out.

                We've seen vs ruiz what happens to AJ when there's a neutral ref . He gets beat up so bad he literally quits.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Nash out
                  Although Usyk just edged past Chisora, it could be argued that Chisora would beat Joshua. Chisora has wins over Whyte 1, Helenius, Takam, Malik King Scott, and others, and has the chin, physical strength, and punch power to KO Femi back into his old Breaking Bad lifestyle. Nash is calling it here, Usyk wins by KO, and in England he is 7-1 betting odds to do so. Nash out.
                  I think chisora has improved massively from when he fought Whyte. Would be a very dangerous fight for AJ. Eddie has probably avoided that fight for a reason.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by DeeMoney

                    I think its more that Usyk never showed that he had the style to fight as the smaller man. You can be a successful modern heavyweight at Usyk's size, but most of them fight a certain way (inside fighters, or pressure fighters, or swarmers). I just don't see that as something Usyk has done- maybe he will though.
                    I think that's a key difference, guys like ruiz spent there whole career fighting bigger men, and have style to manage that scenario. Usyk doesn't

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Jkp

                      I think chisora has improved massively from when he fought Whyte. Would be a very dangerous fight for AJ. Eddie has probably avoided that fight for a reason.
                      Eddie didn't want War Chisora for AJ. Styles make fights and Chisora and Joshua is only 60-40 in AJ'S favor. Remember when he brought Luis Oldtiz over to fight in England for a few fights, all his guys, Joshua, Whyte, etc, were calling out everyone under the sun, except Oldtiz, as they both knew he was a problem. Eddie couldn't wait to let Oldtiz go so he could excuse Joshua and Whyte from fighting him, so Wilder had to deal with him instead. Nash out.

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