Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk's Promoter Feels His Boxer is Now a Natural Heavyweight

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  • elfag
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    #51
    Originally posted by Zelda

    Usyk's chin looks solid against cruiserweights, not heavyweights. We do not have enough data since Usyk hasn't fought much at HW. But I can tell you from his last fight that Usyk did not enjoy one bit engaging with Chisora. He wouldn't stay and trade and definitely did not look very comfortable there. Now Chisora is a fight that likes to keep the pressure and comes forward. But every time Chisora connected, even if it weren't clean shots, Usyk would disengage and keep the distance for safety.

    you can hear the big thuds every time chisora even hit his guard or on the arms. im sure even getting hit in the arm didnt feel great from a top level heavyweight.

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    • KP1
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      #52
      Originally posted by Nash out

      Eddie didn't want War Chisora for AJ. Styles make fights and Chisora and Joshua is only 60-40 in AJ'S favor. Remember when he brought Luis Oldtiz over to fight in England for a few fights, all his guys, Joshua, Whyte, etc, were calling out everyone under the sun, except Oldtiz, as they both knew he was a problem. Eddie couldn't wait to let Oldtiz go so he could excuse Joshua and Whyte from fighting him, so Wilder had to deal with him instead. Nash out.


      How many times did you have to wipe the dribble of your chin typing that nonsense.

      Ortiz could have had a mandatory shot at AJ back in 2017 but failed a drug test and got himself removed from the rankings then flat out ducked when offered the chance to step in for Miller despite being on record saying he would do so.

      https://www.fightsports.tv/ortiz-ill...ler-pulls-out/

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        #53
        Originally posted by landotter

        I can see a couple different ways Usyk can win... and three or four Joshua can. Joshua just has natural power at HW that Usyk just physically does not, so a ton of boxing strategies that would work for Joshua will not for my man, Mr. Usyk. But I have said before, Usyk comes to win, not just do well. He has been shaky at 200+, but all it takes is one perfect night and he will cement a legacy moving up to HW that really has few peers at CW already. I 100% agree with Oldskoolg... the first few rounds will tell a VERY interesting tale. If Usyk is effective early on and avoids bombs from a naturally cautious Joshua.... wow things will get intense real fast in AJ's corner.

        I feel. I very feel.


        that is the only way i really think usyk wins is if AJ is too gun shy and just boxes him lightly and thinks he is ahead on the cards when he isnt and his corner never puts pressure on him to do more. Agree that AJ is the one with more options, he can box use his reach advantage or he can apply pressure with the big power differential between the two of them.

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        • IAMTHAT
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          #54
          Originally posted by BustedKnuckles

          Why not? Cuz his record and stock at HW is on the line. AJ and Fury are the champs now. If he can't beat them, what's the point of being there? Not a glorious thing to go from 5-star star cruiser to just another top contender at HW.
          But the money man ... if he loses he goes on to fighting easier dudes at HW or return to CW. But the money man. I generally don't say props to someone challenging a belt holder because thats the whole purpose, climb up

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            #55
            Originally posted by IAMTHAT

            But the money man ... if he loses he goes on to fighting easier dudes at HW or return to CW. But the money man. I generally don't say props to someone challenging a belt holder because thats the whole purpose, climb up
            I think he should too. I'm just saying there is a reason "why not". He's a winner. And def has the mind of a winner.

            But so did the Ukrainian light heavy (?) champ in this last olympics. Won the fight by the second round, still came hard in the third, and was stopped. Dude hadn't lost a fight in like 6 years.

            I actually haven't been this excited about a fight in a long time. It's a hard fight for both men, and both make good champs as far as their characters, but if Usyk wins, he had the harder climb. AJ is bigger and taller with longer reach. I'm looking forward to each guys strategy this time around.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Greenfield02
              I'll be rooting for Usyk, but I think he's just to small. I see it as him boxing great the first half, only to be caught late. If he had a little more size, he would definitely beat Joshua.
              He's not too small though lmao. Ruiz did just fine.


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              • IAMTHAT
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                #57
                I guess we will know at 630PM (EST) Saturday my friends.

                This is why I love boxing >>>> questions get answered (and new ones get raised)

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