Comments Thread For: Oleksandr Usyk's Promoter Feels His Boxer is Now a Natural Heavyweight

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  • Rapscallion
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    #21
    Both Usyk and Joshua captured gold medals in the 2012 Olympics with Joshua being gifted a medal he did not earn or deserve. And that's the difference.

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    • Monty Fisto
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      #22
      Originally posted by Rapscallion
      Both Usyk and Joshua captured gold medals in the 2012 Olympics with Joshua being gifted a medal he did not earn or deserve. And that's the difference.
      Hilarious. Otherwise they're identical?

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      • Monty Fisto
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        #23
        Originally posted by Zelda
        Usyk is NOT a natural HW and will "become" one. He is a cruiserweight. He can gain weight and beat a few HW but he will always struggle against the top guys. Joshua wins this easily as Usyk ain't gonna hurt AJ. And AJ is far more skilled and agile compared to Chisora so Usyk ain't gonna survive the entire 12 rounds to win on points.

        There is a good chance AJ wins around the 6th round, (or make it between 5-8) but he most probably wins by KO whichever round it is. Usyk is no Holyfield and no Ruiz Jr either. He can neither take heavy punches and survive nor does he have a one-punch KO power. For Usyk to win (by decision), he will have to evade every single power punch from AJ while outscoring him on points which means he hits AJ and doesn't get hit every time he comes well within range since AJ has the height and reach advantages. And to win by KO or TKO, Usyk will have to give AJ a sustained beating while avoiding his punches.

        None of these scenarios are possible which is why I believe this is going to be an easy win for AJ.
        You may be right, but I'm curious as to what can you point to that shows Usyk cannot take heavy punches and survive? As far as I know his chin has never looked anything other than solid. This doesn't prove he can take punches of the calibre that AJ can dish out, but I don't see how we can rank this as anything other than TBD.

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        • 4truth
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          #24
          It wouldn't help Usyk much to just BE bigger, in fact being heavier would likely just make him easier to hit. If he could hit bigger, that would help a great deal. I mean Ruiz is no power puncher but I think he hits quite a lot harder than Usyk.

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          • DeeMoney
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            #25
            Originally posted by IAMTHAT

            not if you add in mexican meat and finish it with some tea, and all of the sudden the boys' a natural. I hope he is not PEDing. He called it nasty stuff, i hope he stands by his words bc i do like him
            Thats kind of the negative perception I felt it implied.

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            • MrShakeAndBake
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              #26
              1. Usyk is taller then fay boy Ruiz.
              2. Based on his latest instagram pictures he is definatly bigger, muscled up and toned.
              3. Usyk is more mobile then Ruiz or Parker.
              4. His ring IQ is through the roof, + Papachenko in his corner.

              But AJ is not a slouch and in his prime.
              Phenomenal shape, smart, fast, kicks like a mule, nice jab and deadly uppers. Rooting for my dog Usyk but chances of him winning are slim. It could turn into Loma vs Lopez where size and power plays a major role. Hopefully he could suprise us all.

              Still win or lose, big respect to Usyk for stepping up to the big dog lile Anthony Joshua.

              WAR USYK
              Last edited by MrShakeAndBake; 09-17-2021, 02:38 PM.

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              • Combat Talk Radio
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                #27
                Originally posted by DeeMoney
                This whole statement doesnt make sense.

                He can't "now" be a natural heavyweight. If he was a "natural heavyweight" he would have always been one, thats what natural means in this case: its what nature predetermined him to be. He could have grown into it, but if he was a natural heavyweight he would have always been one.
                This is the correct answer.

                And this guy damn near lost to, and taken to the limits by, the ghost of Derek Chisora if I recall.

                Smoke and mirrors.

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                • IAMTHAT
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by MrShakeAndBake
                  1. Usyk is taller then fay boy Ruiz.
                  2. Based on his latest instagram pictures he is definatly bigger, muscled up and toned.
                  3. Usyk is more mobile then Ruiz or Parker.
                  4. His ring IQ is through the roof, + Papachenko in his corner.

                  But AJ is not a slouch and in his prime.
                  Phenomenal shape, smart, fast, kicks like a mule, nice jab and deadly uppers. Rooting for my dog Usyk but chances of him winning are slim. It could turn into Loma vs Lopez where size and power plays a major role. Hopefully he could suprise us all.

                  Still win or lose, big respect to Usyk for stepping up to the big dog lile Anthony Joshua.

                  WAR USYK
                  I agree with everything except "big respect to Usyk for stepping up"? Why not? Big money and potential belt. I say big respect to AJ for taking this fight.

                  Lets go. Usyk by TKO 11

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                  • REDEEMER
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by IAMTHAT

                    I agree with everything except "big respect to Usyk for stepping up"? Why not? Big money and potential belt. I say big respect to AJ for taking this fight.

                    Lets go. Usyk by TKO 11
                    It’s a mandatory fight .

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                    • BustedKnuckles
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by IAMTHAT

                      I agree with everything except "big respect to Usyk for stepping up"? Why not? Big money and potential belt. I say big respect to AJ for taking this fight.
                      Why not? Cuz his record and stock at HW is on the line. AJ and Fury are the champs now. If he can't beat them, what's the point of being there? Not a glorious thing to go from 5-star star cruiser to just another top contender at HW.

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