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  • Earl-Hickey
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    #31
    Originally posted by TMLT87

    Francois Botha went 4-12 in kickboxing, Mercer got stopped in 20 seconds, Briggs kickboxed an MMA wrestler and although he won he admitted he was one more kick away from hitting the canvas. Nieky Holzken went the distance with Callum Smith in a pure boxing match a few years back. Whyte and Miller were B/C level kickboxers who transitioned to boxing.

    Its got a small talent pool, but that doesnt make up for the fact that they can kick and knee and pure boxers have no real defence against it.
    Nobody cares, kicking in fights is what girls do.

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    • dan_cov
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      #32
      I've never understood this whole they would just legkick him talk its embarrassing. Its like you whooping my ass in boxing then me saying well if I was allowed to kick you in the boll0cks elsewhere I'd win or so what I'd still beat you in an arm wrestle like its the talk of sore losers unable to accept defeat. You want to change and bend rulesets entirely just so in your mind you can rest easy believing you would win.

      Like wasn't you all just claiming he'd **** him up in the ring also? Why should I buy into your opinion?
      You never see leg kicks thrown in a Street fight because they simply aren't effective and the risk outweighs the reward. You're not stopping anyone with a single legkick and they ain't just standing still letting you either.
      You could probably count on one hand how many times someone like Woodley has thrown one in MMA/his career.
      Your natural reaction in a Street fight is to either grab a hold or punch.

      People act like MMA isn't also a specific ruleset and anyone who has been in Street fights or seen enough will tell you straight up a lot of the stuff you see in MMA doesn't work in any situation actually apart from MMA. The Streets don't have a cage behind you first off or rules to stop you biting, gauging an eye, grabbing clothes, eye-poking, etc which are all extremely common in the Street.

      You don't see a lot of things in MMA these days as its evolved, a lot of kicks even because they're so easily countered, nevermind in the Street where your average Joe isn't thinking tactically, his only goal is to punch you in the face when you get close.

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      • dan_cov
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        #33
        There are probably 10 million Street fights online.
        How many involve a leg kick? let alone one that was effective?
        How many involved seeing an effective submission where the jiu-jitsu practitioner didn't get bit too hell?
        How many involve effect wrestling that wasn't just a mess about between pals?
        How many ended with a spinning backfist?
        A headkick that didn't lead to the kicker ending up on his back?

        I tell you something you could probably count them on one hand.

        MMA fans need to stop acting like MMA is a Street fight. Like Boxing and MMA are different so is MMA and Street fighting.

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        • LeOoze
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          #34
          Originally posted by dan_cov
          I've never understood this whole they would just legkick him talk its embarrassing. Its like you whooping my ass in boxing then me saying well if I was allowed to kick you in the boll0cks elsewhere I'd win or so what I'd still beat you in an arm wrestle like its the talk of sore losers unable to accept defeat. You want to change and bend rulesets entirely just so in your mind you can rest easy believing you would win.

          Like wasn't you all just claiming he'd **** him up in the ring also? Why should I buy into your opinion?
          You never see leg kicks thrown in a Street fight because they simply aren't effective and the risk outweighs the reward. You're not stopping anyone with a single legkick and they ain't just standing still letting you either.
          You could probably count on one hand how many times someone like Woodley has thrown one in MMA/his career.
          Your natural reaction in a Street fight is to either grab a hold or punch.

          People act like MMA isn't also a specific ruleset and anyone who has been in Street fights or seen enough will tell you straight up a lot of the stuff you see in MMA doesn't work in any situation actually apart from MMA. The Streets don't have a cage behind you first off or rules to stop you biting, gauging an eye, grabbing clothes, eye-poking, etc which are all extremely common in the Street.

          You don't see a lot of things in MMA these days as its evolved, a lot of kicks even because they're so easily countered, nevermind in the Street where your average Joe isn't thinking tactically, his only goal is to punch you in the face when you get close.
          nothing but facts. would rep you if i could.

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          • War Room
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            #35
            Originally posted by dan_cov
            There are probably 10 million Street fights online.
            How many involve a leg kick? let alone one that was effective?
            How many involved seeing an effective submission where the jiu-jitsu practitioner didn't get bit too hell?
            How many involve effect wrestling that wasn't just a mess about between pals?
            How many ended with a spinning backfist?
            A headkick that didn't lead to the kicker ending up on his back?

            I tell you something you could probably count them on one hand.

            MMA fans need to stop acting like MMA is a Street fight. Like Boxing and MMA are different so is MMA and Street fighting.
            I punched a guy in the face on the street, he grabbed my shirt, I grabbed his shirt and pulled his head down, tried kneeing his face, my pants were too baggy ---> almost fell backwards.

            MMATARDS are like, this is real fighting. Not really.

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            • TMLT87
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              #36
              Originally posted by dan_cov
              I've never understood this whole they would just legkick him talk its embarrassing. Its like you whooping my ass in boxing then me saying well if I was allowed to kick you in the boll0cks elsewhere I'd win or so what I'd still beat you in an arm wrestle like its the talk of sore losers unable to accept defeat. You want to change and bend rulesets entirely just so in your mind you can rest easy believing you would win.
              Lmao no, its the other way round. Beating an MMA fighter in boxing is like "I can beat you as long as you are only allowed to use the one area of fighting that i'm better at, otherwise you'd stop me in the first round". Its like stipulating someone to wear a blindfold, stand on one leg and only use one arm and then thinking you're a better fighter than them because you beat them under those rules. Boxing rules are the most limited and one dimensional in combat sports, theres an appeal to that too, but the end result is it produces the most limited and one dimensional fighters, no matter how much they perfect that one dimension.

              Originally posted by dan_cov
              There are probably 10 million Street fights online.
              How many involve a leg kick? let alone one that was effective?
              How many involved seeing an effective submission where the jiu-jitsu practitioner didn't get bit too hell?
              How many involve effect wrestling that wasn't just a mess about between pals?
              How many ended with a spinning backfist?
              A headkick that didn't lead to the kicker ending up on his back?
              Wow really so you didnt see drunken untrained people effectively using kicks, takedowns or submissions in WSHH videos? i'm shocked.
              Last edited by TMLT87; 09-01-2021, 02:55 AM.

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              • Raggamuffin
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                #37
                Originally posted by War Room
                This is why Dana blocked non-shot boxers from crossing over like Kermit Cintron and Mike Alvarado when they were in their primes. Hell, he even blocked GSP from fighting Oscar because he knows Oscar will blow him out, he's quoted by GSP saying it.

                UFC and mma are shethouse dosser athletes. All the mmatards were picking Tyrion to win easy by ko, well he got punked and mma got punked by a kid.

                Tyrion the 4 time legend was gonna roll over this youtuber with less than 3 years of training and 4 fights. He was gonna do all these hurtful things, knock him out,hurt him bad lmao. Bum dosser won two rounds legit and landed a handful of punches. Didn't even try to go out on his shield and was tentative.

                You fighting an a youtuber and you don't even fcuking try to go out on yer shield??? Fcuk off ya cvnt.

                mma is gey, the fighters are ham & eggers and they get paid what they deserve to be paid ---> ****.

                And yea, that was a trip.

                Bum ass post from a bum ass poster.

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                • Raggamuffin
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by dan_cov
                  There are probably 10 million Street fights online.
                  How many involve a leg kick? let alone one that was effective?
                  How many involved seeing an effective submission where the jiu-jitsu practitioner didn't get bit too hell?
                  How many involve effect wrestling that wasn't just a mess about between pals?
                  How many ended with a spinning backfist?
                  A headkick that didn't lead to the kicker ending up on his back?

                  I tell you something you could probably count them on one hand.

                  MMA fans need to stop acting like MMA is a Street fight. Like Boxing and MMA are different so is MMA and Street fighting.
                  You haven’t seen a guy use MMA skills in a street fight. All you saw were street fights. But I will say this. A street fight is a street fight. Anything goes. So I don’t give MMA or boxers the advantage over mofos in the street. Technically on paper they do own an advantage because of their skills, but that doesn’t guarantee a win-not in a street fight. No rules in a street fight.

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                  • Noelanthony
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by War Room
                    This is why Dana blocked non-shot boxers from crossing over like Kermit Cintron and Mike Alvarado when they were in their primes. Hell, he even blocked GSP from fighting Oscar because he knows Oscar will blow him out, he's quoted by GSP saying it.

                    UFC and mma are shethouse dosser athletes. All the mmatards were picking Tyrion to win easy by ko, well he got punked and mma got punked by a kid.

                    Tyrion the 4 time legend was gonna roll over this youtuber with less than 3 years of training and 4 fights. He was gonna do all these hurtful things, knock him out,hurt him bad lmao. Bum dosser won two rounds legit and landed a handful of punches. Didn't even try to go out on his shield and was tentative.

                    You fighting an a youtuber and you don't even fcuking try to go out on yer shield??? Fcuk off ya cvnt.

                    mma is gey, the fighters are ham & eggers and they get paid what they deserve to be paid ---> ****.

                    And yea, that was a trip.

                    I rarely agree with you but you are on the money here and Woodley has the nerve to ask for a rematch. He should be ashamed of himself. im even more ashamed as i put money on him to win. he should get the tattoo of Jake Paul and hopefully Jake Paul still denies him the rematch then i will feel better about the money i lost on him

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                    • Noelanthony
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by TMLT87

                      The UFC is having one of their strongest ever years on PPV while the biggest boxing matches of the year are Youtubers vs 44 year old Floyd who hasnt boxed a boxer since 2015, and MMA fighters who have been cut from the UFC. The biggest boxing match last year was two retired boxers with a combined age of over 100 in an exhibition bout.

                      Boxing is the ultimate loser in this. Seriously imagine telling someone 15-20 years ago that by the 2020s UFC fighters vs internet stars would be bigger than 99% of boxing matches.
                      The biggest earner in boxing compared to the biggest earner in MMA. Its incomparable. Dana white in terms of revenue for himself is doing well but what about his fighters? you will find they are the losers

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