Another big loss for mma tonight lmao

[TMLT87]

You haven’t seen a guy use MMA skills in a street fight. All you saw were street fights.

Exactly. Some guy whos probably already impaired by alcohol or drugs, trying to use some **** they saw in the UFC because they think it will look cool, is not the same as someone who actually knows how to properly apply it. Grappling techniques especially have so many little technical subtleties to them that the average Joe isnt seeing, and without those subtleties they wont work.

Another thing dan_cov is overlooking, punches are all you need for 99% of the people you'll encounter on the street, because they arent trained fighters. Why would anyone who has any common sense bother to go for takedowns and throw kicks and **** if they can already KO somebody easily with a punch?

The biggest earner in boxing compared to the biggest earner in MMA. Its incomparable. Dana white in terms of revenue for himself is doing well but what about his fighters? you will find they are the losers

I agree. But some other things to take into account with that...

- MMA only really started in the 90s, what other sports that started in the 90s pay 6-7 figures for max 15-25 mins of work to top guys?

- if you look at payouts for UFC cards in like 2005 when MMA first started properly blowing up and compare them to today, the pay has already increased massively.

- The big money in boxing is concentrated into a very small number of fighters, way less than 1% of the talent pool. Taking into account UFCs pay, how many fighters they have signed to their roster, and MMAs talent pool being a lot smaller than boxings, theres probably a better chance of making a decent living from MMA than there is from boxing tbh, you just wont get those Canelo or Joshua type paydays.

I think the pay will increase further over time anyway, considering theres a constant push for it and its established as a major sport now.

[War Room]

I rarely agree with you but you are on the money here and Woodley has the nerve to ask for a rematch. He should be ashamed of himself. im even more ashamed as i put money on him to win. he should get the tattoo of Jake Paul and hopefully Jake Paul still denies him the rematch then i will feel better about the money i lost on him

Good on you for admitting your faults. Like given.

Bum ass post from a bum ass poster.

You're a bum arsed racist that's got no legs to stand on and only sucking on Woodley's wood because youre a racist pig that feels like you have to support your own people.




Woodley is a BUM, NOT A LEGEND. MMA IS GEY, THE END.

Put me in there with Tyrion and you'll see that leprechaun brutally knocked out looking like a corpse. That big booty thic legged hoe can't hold my jockstrap.

[TMLT87]

Good on you for admitting your faults. Like given.



You're a bum arsed racist that's got no legs to stand on and only sucking on Woodley's wood because youre a racist pig that feels like you have to support your own people.




Woodley is a BUM, NOT A LEGEND. MMA IS GEY, THE END.

Put me in there with Tyrion and you'll see that leprechaun brutally knocked out looking like a corpse. That big booty thic legged hoe can't hold my jockstrap.

Imagine the sheer saltiness and denial you're gonna continue to feel as boxing falls further and further behind a gey sport full of bums as the years go by. You'll probably just give up and become a fan at some point.

[Noelanthony]

Exactly. Some guy whos probably already impaired by alcohol or drugs, trying to use some **** they saw in the UFC because they think it will look cool, is not the same as someone who actually knows how to properly apply it. Grappling techniques especially have so many little technical subtleties to them that the average Joe isnt seeing, and without those subtleties they wont work.

Another thing dan_cov is overlooking, punches are all you need for 99% of the people you'll encounter on the street, because they arent trained fighters. Why would anyone who has any common sense bother to go for takedowns and throw kicks and **** if they can already KO somebody easily with a punch?




I agree. But some other things to take into account with that...

- MMA only really started in the 90s, what other sports that started in the 90s pay 6-7 figures for max 15-25 mins of work to top guys?

- if you look at payouts for UFC cards in like 2005 when MMA first started properly blowing up and compare them to today, the pay has already increased massively.

- The big money in boxing is concentrated into a very small number of fighters, way less than 1% of the talent pool. Taking into account UFCs pay, how many fighters they have signed to their roster, and MMAs talent pool being a lot smaller than boxings, theres probably a better chance of making a decent living from MMA than there is from boxing tbh, you just wont get those Canelo or Joshua type paydays.

I think the pay will increase further over time anyway, considering theres a constant push for it and its established as a major sport now.

UFC perhaps but not MMA as a whole. However, i dont fully know the figures but i still would have thought an average boxer gets a better salary than an average MMA fighter(usually its the elite MMA FIGHTER thats in the UFC?)in any case i agree with the rest of the points you made

[TMLT87]

UFC perhaps but not MMA as a whole. However, i dont fully know the figures but i still would have thought an average boxer gets a better salary than an average MMA fighter(usually its the elite MMA FIGHTER thats in the UFC?)in any case i agree with the rest of the points you made

The UFC has a ridiculously bloated roster nowadays. Around 700 fighters signed at any one time, the entire pro MMA talent pool has less than 10,000 fighters.

[Szef]

Imagine the sheer saltiness and denial you're gonna continue to feel as boxing falls further and further behind a gey sport full of bums as the years go by. You'll probably just give up and become a fan at some point.

He doesn't have to imagine that, he just has to look at you.

You've been all over the place since the fight.

The reality is setting in and you're not liking it.

But this is just a beginning.

Just wait until Jake KOs McGregor or Masvidal or both.

Massive suicides amongst middle class suburban white males who thought they knew anything about fighting will follow.

[TMLT87]

But this is just a beginning.

Just wait until Jake KOs McGregor or Masvidal or both.

If he did would that stop boxing from fading into irrelevance and being further overtaken by MMA?

[Szef]

If he did would that stop boxing from fading into irrelevance and being further overtaken by MMA?

You can't stop something that isn't happening.

[TMLT87]

You can't stop something that isn't happening.

Two of the three biggest boxing PPVs of 2021 through September literally had MMA fighters in them, none had actual active boxers. The biggest boxing PPV last year was 54 year old Mike Tyson vs 51 year old RJJ in an exhibition. The biggest boxing PPV since Floyd/Pac was Floyd vs an MMA fighter. Just 2 weeks after Jake/Woodley we are about to see 48 year old Oscar come out of retirement to box, you guessed it, an MMA fighter, with a co-main featuring two MMA fighters boxing each other. In the midst of this actual serious boxing PPVs involving supposed top current boxing stars like Spence, Tank and the Charlos do comparable numbers to the worst performing UFC PPVs in their 12-13 PPV per year schedule.

The guy you're (hopefully jokingly) calling the face of boxing has never fought a boxer, turns up at UFC events, only boxes MMA fighters and doesnt shut up about Dana and MMA because thats where his heart is at really. ESPN now shows the UFC, prioritizes it over boxing, has Max Kellerman talking about it. Teddy Atlas talks about MMA as much as boxing. Some small developer is about to release the first major boxing game in a ****ing decade because EA ie the foremost publisher of sports games dropped boxing and started making UFC games instead. Youtube views and social media numbers are all strongly in favour of MMA. Conor is indisputably the biggest combat sports star since Floyd retired from serious boxing, Conor/Khabib was (excluding Floyd/Conor ie a novelty fight) the biggest fight in combat sports since Floyd/Pac, doing more PPV buys than Fury/Wilder 1+2 combined, and around as many as both Canelo/GGG fights combined. Canelo, the biggest draw in boxing, had one of his fights delayed for 45 mins so they could show a UFC main event on the arenas big screens.

How much more evidence do you ****ing need? to put it in perspective, just contrast it with say 15 years ago, if I wanted to make the case MMA was bigger back then, what evidence would I have had to back up the argument compared to today? thats a clear indication of where the momentum has been going since then.

[PRINCEKOOL]

The biggest earner in boxing compared to the biggest earner in MMA. Its incomparable. Dana white in terms of revenue for himself is doing well but what about his fighters? you will find they are the losers

If you can compare boxing and UFC, as if they where a society.

The UFC has a bigger middle class in comparison to boxing.

Boxing has no real middle class fighters, you are ether working class or super elite.

Where as in the UFC, apart from Mcgregor there not many super elite earners in the game.

Depending on where you are competing as a working class boxer, this also changes things. You have fighters such as David Price who has done very well fighting in the UK etc.

I don't care much for this thread, will most likely not post again in here.