Comments Thread For: Joe Joyce's Manager: Usyk, His Team Did Everything Humanly Possible To Avoid The Fight

[Rodtang]

Are u kidding me, when did I say he's more dangerous than Joshua? All I stated was there is no point in taking a fight against a live body when he's close to fighting for all the marbles... Dillian Whyte has been trying to get easy fights since he rematched povetkin, and the same rule applies, why take a harder fight and lose his position when he's close to his shot? I get it, your a mad Joshua fan and any perceived slight against your boy is sacrilege, but u got it wrong Roddy, I wasn't saying Joyce is more dangerous than Joshua. And of course the amateur bout has a bearing, it shows how this bout could go down, whenever people face off in the pros, if they've already fought in the amateur's, analysts and journalists always refer to there previous fights as a barometer of how it could go to his time around, case in point, when parker fought fa, they couldn't stop going on about how it's 2-2 from there amateur days

You have my sincerest apology pal as I've got different chats going on and I've gotten people mixed up. I'm sorry and will be more careful in future. I agree with what you've said regarding not taking risks with a big shot looming. I don't agree with the amateur stuff though as its a totally different situation and on a totally different level to back then. And analysts and the media use that for stoking the fire, for the interest surrounding a fight. That's just a personal opinion. Again my apologies it was mistaken identify and I should have been more thorough.

[Satir]

Usyk's promoter Krassyuk explained it in one of his videos, that as per WBO rules they had to wait till Joshua-Fury unification fight's (contract) actually signed first to get a deal with Joyce or smn else, bcause Usyk was highest ranked and the WBO mandatory fight for Joshua; so if Joshua doesnt fight Fury he fights Usyk;

[I have no ears]

You have my sincerest apology pal as I've got different chats going on and I've gotten people mixed up. I'm sorry and will be more careful in future. I agree with what you've said regarding not taking risks with a big shot looming. I don't agree with the amateur stuff though as its a totally different situation and on a totally different level to back then. And analysts and the media use that for stoking the fire, for the interest surrounding a fight. That's just a personal opinion. Again my apologies it was mistaken identify and I should have been more thorough.

No need to apologize my man, you're good

[Ray*]

Do you call Whyte sane? I wouldn’t… Anyone that turns down AJ to go and fight someone like JJ must be insane.

[tokon]

It's not just down to Hrgovic promoters lol there's 2 sides to a fight. And if agreement can't be reached it goes to purse bid. .

Joyce-Hrgovic was ordered by ibf as a mandatory? That's the only way that purse bid etc applies, isn't it?

[Rodtang]

Joyce-Hrgovic was ordered by ibf as a mandatory? That's the only way that purse bid etc applies, isn't it?

They were trying to find an opponent for Hrgovic in a final eliminator. It was originally Michael Hunter but when it went to purse bid he pulled out. After that everyone else in the top 15 declined the opportunity. So there was no negotiations between Joyce and hrgovic. They are going the WBO route.

[_Rexy_]

Do you call Whyte sane? I wouldn’t… Anyone that turns down AJ to go and fight someone like JJ must be insane.

Oh I was just making a joke. Whyte is the only person in the world I could think of who turned down a shot at 3 belts to go fight Oscar Rivas, who barely anyone outside of Canada had ever fking heard of.


And somehow people defended it

[Ray*]

Oh I was just making a joke. Whyte is the only person in the world I could think of who turned down a shot at 3 belts to go fight Oscar Rivas, who barely anyone outside of Canada had ever fking heard of.


And somehow people defended it

The guy doesn’t have a business sense. I think suffering that KO loss against Povetkin actually gave him that business sense that’s needed. At the time too he could have beaten AJ, sure you have to rematch him but you would still have made loads of money, instead you nearly got taken out in the 9th round by Rivas, and eventually lost to Pov. And still has never fought for a title at HW.

[billeau2]

By competitive I mean, yea he kept walking onto the straight left, and he was clearly beaten, I'm not denying that but usyk hit him with his best punches and Joyce kept coming as he usually does, and Joyce still had his moments, in the second round he knocked usyk halfway across the ring and he kept hitting him with the jab in all 5 rounds and all this having only taken up boxing a few years earlier, against an Olympic champion who had bout 400 amateur bouts at that point, Joyce has undoubtedly improved since then, maybe not to the point that he would gain revenge in the pro ranks but to a point where over 12 rounds he would give a very good account of himself, so why would usyk take that fight before Joshua? It makes little to no sense

I have no qualms with Usyk making an obviously superior choice... But I would not use an amateur fight years back, to determine how a fight between Joyce and Usyk would play out. That is pure folly. Given Usyk's style Joyce is a really bad match up for him. Joshua is a much easier fight for Usyk. If one looks at tape of Usyk he does a lot of things and they all revolve around his ability to have some way to be physical with his opponents. He can tire Joshua out and do this in the later rounds... Joyce does not tire.

[REDEEMER]

I have no qualms with Usyk making an obviously superior choice... But I would not use an amateur fight years back, to determine how a fight between Joyce and Usyk would play out. That is pure folly. Given Usyk's style Joyce is a really bad match up for him. Joshua is a much easier fight for Usyk. If one looks at tape of Usyk he does a lot of things and they all revolve around his ability to have some way to be physical with his opponents. He can tire Joshua out and do this in the later rounds... Joyce does not tire.

Usyk vs Joyce is a 50/50 fight at least until Or Joshua stops him .

Usyk has nothing really to trouble a fast counter puncher like AJ ,it’s an easy fight for AJ stylistically. Joshuas not going to tire out with the weight he’s coming in and Usyk doesn’t have power nor size to slow or take energy out of him .

Joyce vs Usyk wasn’t an amateur fight it was a 5 rounder with pro gloves .