Comments Thread For: Joe Joyce's Manager: Usyk, His Team Did Everything Humanly Possible To Avoid The Fight

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AJ slows down later in fights. its been a pattern. And yes in Ruiz 1. You don't generally "counter" as the person doing the pressing, and since when would Usyk be pressing AJ? Have you ever gotten in a boxing ring? Just curious.

Going the distance is not a measure of a fighter's stamina. Measures would include amount of punches thrown, declining in later rounds, fighter being less active in general etc. Watch AJ's fights... Decide for yourself.

I know your just dying' to get It right once lol. Listen AJ could beat Usyk if Usyk does not make the right adjustments, or, if AJ is really that guy who can turn away the talented challenger coming up to the heavyweight division... If AJ shows he can handle Usyk, more power to him, I will admit I was wrong. I don't think its going that way though, having seen how Usyk is preparing.

Silly Billy I didn’t say Usyk will be pressing AJ in fact I said Usyk needs to press him if he hopes to tire him out ? Silly Billy . Ha

All fighters slow down after mid rounds in fights that’s just another general statement.you fabricated including AJ as the one sole fighter who slows ? AJ just gets penalized for it more more from bizarre posters , the fact he gets most stoppages late shows he actually doesn’t have stamina issues . I don’t think you understand that .

When one wins rounds and dominates the fight late it is a measure of stamina otherwise the fighter looks sloppy and most times loses rounds late ,this should be boxing 101 ?

For a guy who continues to tell me I’m wrong all the time you sure have a short list of fights and a short memory you picked Wilder twice against Fury right ? Ha ,I know because I usually only pick heavyweight ones and you can’t name the long list of fights that I supposed get wrong all the time ,silly Billy telling tall tales you just can’t help yourself .

[billeau2]

Silly Billy I didn’t say Usyk will be pressing AJ in fact I said Usyk needs to press him if he hopes to tire him out ? Silly Billy . Ha

All fighters slow down after mid rounds in fights that’s just another general statement.you fabricated including AJ as the one sole fighter who slows ? AJ just gets penalized for it more more from bizarre posters , the fact he gets most stoppages late shows he actually doesn’t have stamina issues . I don’t think you understand that .

When one wins rounds and dominates the fight late it is a measure of stamina otherwise the fighter looks sloppy and most times loses rounds late ,this should be boxing 101 ?

For a guy who continues to tell me I’m wrong all the time you sure have a short list of fights ,I know because I usually only pared heavyweight ones and you can’t name the long list of fights that I supposed get wrong all the time ,silly Billy telling tall tales you just can’t help yourself .

"Usyk isn’t that difficult to counter when being pressed". That would be your post Redumber... Fabricated? Lol what a half wit. You cannot "Fabricate" an opinion Redumber.

Im not even going to show your own post where you said no such thing about Usyk... Have a poster who can read explain that you did not say that in your post, as I am not here to teach the morons, not today...

I mean... Your just too slow to play with Silly Billy, stay home... Read a book. Your just pathetic... (shakes head). You just either lied to me about what is obvious that you posted, or are really really that slow.

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"Usyk isn’t that difficult to counter when being pressed". That would be your post Redumber... Fabricated? Lol what a half wit. You cannot "Fabricate" an opinion Redumber.

Im not even going to show your own post where you said no such thing about Usyk... Have a poster who can read explain that you did not say that in your post, as I am not here to teach the morons, not today...

I mean... Your just too slow to play with Silly Billy, stay home... Read a book. Your just pathetic... (shakes head). You just either lied to me about what is obvious that you posted, or are really really that slow.

Fabrication means putting truth and fantasy together it’s what you do on here . I was also talking about my breakdown of the Usyk vs AJ fight and what needs to be done for Usyk to win . So ?

Hopefully you understand about stamina now anyway ,but I doubt it . I could get into counter punching to but I think it’s a step to far for someone who doesn’t understand how stamina can be gaged and insists AJ has stamina issues even when he gets stoppages late and still maintains the least hit heavyweight while being aggressive which needs more stamina ?

[billeau2]

Fabrication means putting truth and fantasy together it’s what you do on here . I was also talking about my breakdown of the Usyk vs AJ fight and what needs to be done for Usyk to win . So ?

Hopefully you understand about stamina now anyway ,but I doubt it . I could get into counter punching to but I think it’s a step to far for someone who doesn’t understand how stamina can be gaged .

Shaking my head... Nothing to discuss with you if you cannot even know when you wrote something in a post. Your a dumb a s s. what can I say? And looking at the dictionary is a good first step, but you will learn that words have connotations, not just literal definitions. One does not "fabricate" when giving an opinion about a fight... Its just not a correct understanding of the term. But good on you for reading your dictionary!! Its a start!!!


dumb a s s. (shakes head)

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Shaking my head... Nothing to discuss with you if you cannot even know when you wrote something in a post. Your a dumb a s s. what can I say? And looking at the dictionary is a good first step, but you will learn that words have connotations, not just literal definitions. One does not "fabricate" when giving an opinion about a fight... Its just not a correct understanding of the term. But good on you for reading your dictionary!! Its a start!!!


dumb a s s. (shakes head)

This is one from over a month ago of the fight I did quite a few of them .

“This will be AJs second best win but he’ll make it look easy , can’t see him losing many rounds if Usyk is still standing . People are putting to much emphasis on size and comparing Holyfield which isn’t practical suggesting Usyks size isn’t a problem

I think it’s a huge problem bc he’s not a pocket fighter with the compact combos Evander had and he’s a southpaw perfect for AJ ,it’s just a recipe fir disaster for Usyk.

Either way I expect a ton of excuses when or in the event it’s a short fight ,posters will say he beat a CW up and if he does ppl will say it doesn’t mean much as usual. Another excuses why AJ won . In the meantime right now Usyk is formidable , afterwards ? The plot will change . Ha”

You as usual didn’t bring any reality to the table here just more random dribble when someone educated you on boxing and you couldn’t handle it again . You fabricated AJ has stamina issues based on one fight we know this because you can’t list more then the Ruiz one which could have been a concussion issue right ?

That’s called mixing reality with fantasy , a fabricated story of opinion not backed by facts like you saying I get it wrong all thetime or is that a lie not a fabrication? It’s hard to tell with you because you seldom tell the truth on here .

And please explain how me saying Usyk isn’t hard to counter when pressed takes away from this quote “Usyk isn’t that difficult to counter when being pressed". I never said Usyk is going to press AJ you made that up Silly Billy with this quote I never said you made .

“Since when will Usyk be pressing AJ” Fabrication.

aboutfkntime Come get your guy , he just can’t help himself. Ha

[tokon]

They were trying to find an opponent for Hrgovic in a final eliminator. It was originally Michael Hunter but when it went to purse bid he pulled out. After that everyone else in the top 15 declined the opportunity. So there was no negotiations between Joyce and hrgovic. They are going the WBO route.

Right, so it wasn't a mandatory and Hrgovics promoters were just a trying to find an ibf ranked opponent so the fight could serve as a "final eliminator"? And we don't know what sort of purse was offered to Joyce, if in fact any ever was?
So really there's nothing much to discuss in terms of "Joyce not taking the fight"?
I get it, thanks.

[billeau2]

This is one from over a month ago of the fight I did quite a few of them .

“This will be AJs second best win but he’ll make it look easy , can’t see him losing many rounds if Usyk is still standing . People are putting to much emphasis on size and comparing Holyfield which isn’t practical suggesting Usyks size isn’t a problem

I think it’s a huge problem bc he’s not a pocket fighter with the compact combos Evander had and he’s a southpaw perfect for AJ ,it’s just a recipe fir disaster for Usyk.

Either way I expect a ton of excuses when or in the event it’s a short fight ,posters will say he beat a CW up and if he does ppl will say it doesn’t mean much as usual. Another excuses why AJ won . In the meantime right now Usyk is formidable , afterwards ? The plot will change . Ha”

You as usual didn’t bring any reality to the table here just more random dribble when someone educated you on boxing and you couldn’t handle it again . You fabricated AJ has stamina issues based on one fight we know this because you can’t list more then the Ruiz one which could have been a concussion issue right ?

That’s called mixing reality with fantasy , a fabricated story of opinion not backed by facts like you saying I get it wrong all thetime or is that a lie not a fabrication? It’s hard to tell with you because you seldom tell the truth on here .

And please explain how me saying Usyk isn’t hard to counter when pressed takes away from this quote “Usyk isn’t that difficult to counter when being pressed". I never said Usyk is going to press AJ you made that up Silly Billy with this quote I never said you made .

“Since when will Usyk be pressing AJ” Fabrication.

aboutfkntime Come get your guy , he just can’t help himself. Ha

Looking desperately... Trying so hard to be right! Dude, your pathos is sick lol. Your like a bullied child. I don't really need to "win" on the internet, to call a fight right... It is a form of entertainment. Keep trying one of these days you have to be right about something... even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Read your post... everything you said. Its not complicated. Yeah lol thats a fabrication alright!! keep trying... Next time? If a word is hard look it up first, then try to figure out context... there is not a whole lot that can explain to a moron why taking an opinion about a fight is not a fabrication. I would say you would figure it out... but you probably will not.

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That’s why it’s a good idea and almost necessity to have a manager not be self managed .

Yep, agreed 100%

[JakeTheBoxer]

Joyce is just like Hrgovic. Nobody is gonna fight these guys, because these 2 beat the most of others.

[Rodtang]

Deductive reasoning... well done. Generally speaking, as you intimate, at the time when Usyk fought Chisora, and Dubois fought Joyce, there was no talk of Usyk fighting Joyce. The relevant issues were: Dubois, if he could come up a notch against Joyce... and if Usyk could fight at heavyweight. Chisora was a safe opponent... i.e. no rational decision maker would look at the amateur fight with Joyce and Usyk as proof of anything.

Regarding Usyk waiting: Its important to understand that while deluded individuals poo poo'ed the arbitration as impossible, and while the media selectively ignored it, professional decision makers considered the possibility that the Wilder fight would have to happen first. Given that scenario, why should Usyk have committed to anything else?

That's right. The Usyk vs Chisora fight had been in the works for some time. And Dubois vs Joyce had been previously ordered but Joe at that time felt it was a step back. Later when Dubois was in the no 2 spot, then Joe saw the value of the fight, for the ranking. The only better fight would have been Usyk, but that would have required Frank making an offer that he just can't come up with. And Frank also fancied Joe as a big profile boost for his young star but it backfired. But he still has Joe and in my opinion Joe's underrated.