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Yeah that's correct. He's very much a high risk low reward case if your thinking cash. But if you believe in your abilities and want to get the shot quicker? However Joyce is well placed with the WBO and protected by Warren he will definitely get the shot. It'll just take longer is all. I'm not critical of Joe waiting for his WBO shot. It's just going to be further down the road than Sam Jones seems to think it is.
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I don’t blame them, the AJ payday is not something any sane person would avoid.Comment
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It's not just down to Hrgovic promoters lol there's 2 sides to a fight. And if agreement can't be reached it goes to purse bid. In any case it's a moot point as they declined the opportunity as they have a good WBO position. The only one to negotiate to fight Hrgovic was Hunter and he plain expected a large offer and when it wasn't there he pulled out. Where was the Triller money then. Every other fighter in the top 15 including Joyce declined the opportunity. I'm not critical of Joyce as he has it going on with the WBO. It's just going to take longer for his shot to come around though.Comment
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That was a mandated fight though who is co promoted by who doesn’t really mean much here ,Hearn would have put the fight on to who the highest bidder was . Joyce winning against Usyk puts him in a WBO mandatory position where he would be fighting AJ next that would be the significant something . That DDD fight was actually the result of Joyce pulling out of the Hrgovic fight as it probably deemed to risky for them even if they win the IBF spot .Last edited by REDEEMER; 08-29-2021, 09:27 AM.Comment
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When the fight was mandated it was an appeasement for Usyk in order for the undisputed fight to happen and on the proviso that, that fight was done. Therefore Joyce was only ever a plan B scenario. You said Usyk chose Chisora when he could have fought Joyce, but Joyce was earmarked for Dubois. Let's not forget it was Dubois that had the no 2 slot then not Joe as he was further down the ranking, not even in the top 5 in fact. So back then Usyk was never an issue for Joyce as he was heading for an in-house fight. They all do in-house mate, we know how they play the game even if we don't agree with it. Sam's comments about Usyk not wanting to know are surrounding their supposed interim title fight. But why is Usyk gonna commit to that when the undisputed fight wasn't done. You wait to see if it falls through, which it did, then your gonna go for the golden ticket, not the backup plan. I like Sam but this is just him trying to raise Joe's profile. And I'm a fan of JJ also.Comment
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Are u kidding me, when did I say he's more dangerous than Joshua? All I stated was there is no point in taking a fight against a live body when he's close to fighting for all the marbles... Dillian Whyte has been trying to get easy fights since he rematched povetkin, and the same rule applies, why take a harder fight and lose his position when he's close to his shot? I get it, your a mad Joshua fan and any perceived slight against your boy is sacrilege, but u got it wrong Roddy, I wasn't saying Joyce is more dangerous than Joshua. And of course the amateur bout has a bearing, it shows how this bout could go down, whenever people face off in the pros, if they've already fought in the amateur's, analysts and journalists always refer to there previous fights as a barometer of how it could go to his time around, case in point, when parker fought fa, they couldn't stop going on about how it's 2-2 from there amateur daysComment
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