Why is Luis Ortiz still ranked top-10 HW by Ring Magazine?

[Stuart Chandler]

I don’t like when a grown arse man writes “your” instead of “you’re” - it just shows lack of basic education. Do better, Silly Billy.

I still remember how I used to do the boys in the US Marine, don’t make me take you through boot camp.

Just admit you’re a village idiot and you’re wrong about the old bum, Ortiz.

Ortiz is a bum beater .

[billeau2]

I don’t like when a grown arse man writes “your” instead of “you’re” - it just shows lack of basic education. Do better, Silly Billy.

I still remember how I used to do the boys in the US Marine, don’t make me take you through boot camp.

Just admit you’re a village idiot and you’re wrong about the old bum, Ortiz.

Ortiz the American fighter? Lol. You come up with a ridiculous assertion, top it off with using Ortiz as an example of a bias towards muricans and what a suprise... now it's spelling, the last vestige for those losing... next comes ad hominid attacks.

listen ****ers and mash... you want this smoke? Think twice lol, think twice... I won't destroy you like shoulder did to redumber but think twice about your accusations bro...

I was supporting Dylan Whyte when he was catching more flak than that American Ortiz! Was a fan of Fury way back before he got noticed, never bore AJ malice, adored Hatton... now you want to push nonsense? It's all good, but no mercy.

You want to argue talent? Let's watch some Fighters and fights on tape and compare notes... that's the way adults have a conversation... otherwise? Shiat in shiat out. You get the same respect as redumber who argues contracts and does not know what consideration is. Your choice

[BangEM]

Be careful with insulting fat people .

I sincerely apologise to all the morbidly obese cows crawling across the world and I hope King Gilgamesh’s missus accepts my apologies.

[BangEM]

Ortiz the American fighter? Lol. You come up with a ridiculous assertion, top it off with using Ortiz as an example of a bias towards muricans and what a suprise... now it's spelling, the last vestige for those losing... next comes ad hominid attacks.

listen ****ers and mash... you want this smoke? Think twice lol, think twice... I won't destroy you like shoulder did to redumber but think twice about your accusations bro...

I was supporting Dylan Whyte when he was catching more flak than that American Ortiz! Was a fan of Fury way back before he got noticed, never bore AJ malice, adored Hatton... now you want to push nonsense? It's all good, but no mercy.

You want to argue talent? Let's watch some Fighters and fights on tape and compare notes... that's the way adults have a conversation... otherwise? Shiat in shiat out. You get the same respect as redumber who argues contracts and does not know what consideration is. Your choice

Give it rest. A chihuahua stands no chance again a bull dog. You’ll get bullied and crawl back into your hole.

Let’s start afresh: why is an old bum like Ortiz ranked in the top-10?

[billeau2]

Give it rest. A chihuahua stands no chance again a bull dog. You’ll get bullied and crawl back into your hole.

Let’s start afresh: why is an old bum like Ortiz ranked in the top-10?

I don'r give a hoot about rankings, they are seldom accurate, and... My view of Ortiz and any other fighter regarding the future has to do with how they look for their next fight. Your not truly reading what I post... Please don't contribute to the fckery here and assume what people are posting? Read the posts... Again for the sake of clarity, I never mentioned rankings. I never said that any ranking is accurate/inaccurate.

Ortiz like most fighters at the moment are not active... I don't claim to know if Ortiz's behavior is a contributing factor towards his inactivity... I don't know if Whyte, or Ortiz is responsible for ducking, I don't know and I don't really care.

My point is/was/always has been that Ortiz when he fought was on the level of similar fighters who are not the top of the division...That specifically means any fighter not named Fury, Wilder, or AJ. I mentioned reasons for this statement: It was/is and has been for a while, a weak division. Also, Ortiz has skills, he did beat all comers until he faced a top dog.

I don't live in a hole, and the day a parvenue like you can show me where I am off? is a bit off . Casuals always have to be right and never recognize that there are disagreements about some fighters... Instead they put words in mouths, try to "win" etc. Look at how much Redumber has "won" trying to behave like this... and ask yourself if this is what "winning" is. Ill give you some "proof" of my point of view regarding skills and the division.

This site!! I wanted to message you something... If you can will you message me? Or pull the Jimmy Young Lyle fight, the first one and watch it.

[Bandman]

because the division is a wasteland.

[Stuart Chandler]

I don'r give a hoot about rankings, they are seldom accurate, and... My view of Ortiz and any other fighter regarding the future has to do with how they look for their next fight. Your not truly reading what I post... Please don't contribute to the fckery here and assume what people are posting? Read the posts... Again for the sake of clarity, I never mentioned rankings. I never said that any ranking is accurate/inaccurate.

Ortiz like most fighters at the moment are not active... I don't claim to know if Ortiz's behavior is a contributing factor towards his inactivity... I don't know if Whyte, or Ortiz is responsible for ducking, I don't know and I don't really care.

My point is/was/always has been that Ortiz when he fought was on the level of similar fighters who are not the top of the division...That specifically means any fighter not named Fury, Wilder, or AJ. I mentioned reasons for this statement: It was/is and has been for a while, a weak division. Also, Ortiz has skills, he did beat all comers until he faced a top dog.

I don't live in a hole, and the day a parvenue like you can show me where I am off? is a bit off . Casuals always have to be right and never recognize that there are disagreements about some fighters... Instead they put words in mouths, try to "win" etc. Look at how much Redumber has "won" trying to behave like this... and ask yourself if this is what "winning" is. Ill give you some "proof" of my point of view regarding skills and the division.

This site!! I wanted to message you something... If you can will you message me? Or pull the Jimmy Young Lyle fight, the first one and watch it.

Jimmy Young was average fighter he gets a lot of credit for getting by a dumb Foreman who would knock him into next year if he had any boxing intelligent skills .

[just the facts]

I just saw the old bum who never fought anyone in the top-10 rankings of the latest Ring Magazine rankings.

Boxing is a joke.

The bum shouldn't even be anywhere near top-20 until he fights someone. There are loads of PBC boxers he can fight to prove he's worthy of being ranked.

Your ignorant bu!!shyte aside, the reason is that there isn't 10 current heavyweight fighters more deserving or qualified.

[Raggamuffin]

I just saw the old bum who never fought anyone in the top-10 rankings of the latest Ring Magazine rankings.

Boxing is a joke.

The bum shouldn't even be anywhere near top-20 until he fights someone. There are loads of PBC boxers he can fight to prove he's worthy of being ranked.

So who should be ranked over him?

[REDEEMER]

I don'r give a hoot about rankings, they are seldom accurate, and... My view of Ortiz and any other fighter regarding the future has to do with how they look for their next fight. Your not truly reading what I post... Please don't contribute to the fckery here and assume what people are posting? Read the posts... Again for the sake of clarity, I never mentioned rankings. I never said that any ranking is accurate/inaccurate.

Ortiz like most fighters at the moment are not active... I don't claim to know if Ortiz's behavior is a contributing factor towards his inactivity... I don't know if Whyte, or Ortiz is responsible for ducking, I don't know and I don't really care.

My point is/was/always has been that Ortiz when he fought was on the level of similar fighters who are not the top of the division...That specifically means any fighter not named Fury, Wilder, or AJ. I mentioned reasons for this statement: It was/is and has been for a while, a weak division. Also, Ortiz has skills, he did beat all comers until he faced a top dog.

I don't live in a hole, and the day a parvenue like you can show me where I am off? is a bit off . Casuals always have to be right and never recognize that there are disagreements about some fighters... Instead they put words in mouths, try to "win" etc. Look at how much Redumber has "won" trying to behave like this... and ask yourself if this is what "winning" is. Ill give you some "proof" of my point of view regarding skills and the division.

This site!! I wanted to message you something... If you can will you message me? Or pull the Jimmy Young Lyle fight, the first one and watch it.

Another Silly post Silly Billy , you are the guy that throws fits in the history section when one brings rational points that prove yours obsolete. You then make threads and can’t stop yourself from mentioning me in here but when I mention you act like a little girl ? Ha

This guy threw a fit when I suggested Golota may be to big for Frazier as he had never actually mowed any power puncher of size down where Golota was bigger then Foreman by a good margin as well ,he then follows posters who put up better arguments,this is silly Billy’s trademark on here no matter how easy he’s proven wrong on most everything. He’s like the stalker girlfriend he goes as far as making threads in other sections about posters he cannot cope with on here .