Why did JEFF HORN do such a good job against Pacquiao?

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  • GrandpaBernard
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    #141
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua

    Wow

    You think pac-jmm 3 wasn't close

    But you had horn winning at least half the rounds vs pac


    Are you cj ross?
    Marquez handled manny in the 3rd fight

    Marquez swept rounds 2 through 10. manny had losing body language when the decision was announced.

    manny won as little as 3 rounds and up to 5.

    Horn did well enough to get anywhere from 5 to 7 rounds

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      #142
      Errol like Horn is a pressure guy but much better

      ofc manny will train harder for Spence

      still Errol only needs to do marginally better than Horn to clearly beat manny

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        #143
        Horn simply wasn't manny's night

        Horn even outworked manny. That wasn't supposed to happen.

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          #144
          We could say a lot of things about that fight. Or, we can ask, where is Horn now and where is Manny now in the sport?

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          • Left Hook Tua
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            #145
            Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
            Marquez handled manny in the 3rd fight

            Marquez swept rounds 2 through 10. manny had losing body language when the decision was announced.

            manny won as little as 3 rounds and up to 5.

            Horn did well enough to get anywhere from 5 to 7 rounds
            The only way you think that is if you're looking for every round to give to jmm

            It was a close fight

            I have no problem ppl thinking jmm won

            But to act like it wasn't close is ridiculous

            The only fight were jmm clearly won way more rounds was the 1st pac fight

            But that fight was weird because pac scored 3 knockdowns early so the scoring was off

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            • Left Hook Tua
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              #146
              Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
              Horn simply wasn't manny's night

              Horn even outworked manny. That wasn't supposed to happen.
              Its fine to outwork your opponent but you have to land clean punches

              You can outwork ppl all you want but if you can't land clean punches it dont mean crap

              Hell every fighter floyd fought probably outworked him

              But it doesn't matter because they weren't landing

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                #147
                Horn threw 50 more punches than pac in a 12 round fight

                Outworked him?

                By throwing 4 more punches a round that didn't even land anyway?

                Ridiculous

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #148
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua

                  The only way you think that is if you're looking for every round to give to jmm

                  It was a close fight

                  I have no problem ppl thinking jmm won

                  But to act like it wasn't close is ridiculous

                  The only fight were jmm clearly won way more rounds was the 1st pac fight

                  But that fight was weird because pac scored 3 knockdowns early so the scoring was off
                  On first viewing I thought it was a clear robbery.

                  But when I sat down and watched it properly, I had to a razor close win for Marquez.

                  It shows that you really need to rewatch fights atleast once especially close fights. Because first viewing and second viewing can be totally different.

                  The heat of the moment changes a lot of things.

                  Also, that was the one Pacquaio-Marquez fight where Pacquaio was a huge favourite and expected to destroy Marquez and finish him within 6.

                  That’s a common theme where the guy who isn’t supposed to have a chance does well, rounds that are close end up being seen as clear rounds to the underdog

                  Anyway, reality is, Pacquaio-Marquez 3 had too many close rounds to be a robbery. There’s no way Marquez won 7 rounds in clear/dominant fashion.
                  Last edited by IronDanHamza; 08-03-2021, 04:45 PM.

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                  • Richard G
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua

                    Its fine to outwork your opponent but you have to land clean punches

                    You can outwork ppl all you want but if you can't land clean punches it dont mean crap

                    Hell every fighter floyd fought probably outworked him

                    But it doesn't matter because they weren't landing
                    So out working someone doesn't mean crap? Do you know anything at all about boxing? What out working did was wear Packy out, he failed with the KO attempt and from then on was running on empty. Understand?

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                    • davef
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                      #150
                      Manny didn't use enough seawater on his shoulder this gave a huge advantage to the school teacher Jeffrey Horn who made pac his pupil that day in the ring

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