Why did JEFF HORN do such a good job against Pacquiao?

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  • paulf
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    #111
    The same reason Bradley did so well against Pacquiao: the judges blew it.

    Horn is the Australian Chris Algeri: won his title via robbery and has got embarrassed every time he sets foot in the ring against someone decent since.

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    • dan_cov
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      #112
      I think Manny overlooked him and wasn't in great shape especially by his standards but maybe the heat and I imagine Horns size and physicality had a lot to do with that also.

      Debatable decision, he used a lot of illegal tactics but at the same time I don't think Horn gets anywhere near the credit he deserves for that performance.
      He fought like a man possessed and showed some serious dog that night. Everytime Manny wanted a breather he pounced all over him.
      I've never seen anyone rough Manny up like that before or after and he visibly hurt Manny several times.

      I think he really fought above himself that night and was never going to ever come close to replicating anything like it again.

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      • dan_cov
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        #113
        He's offbeat, a bit all over the place with no real rhythm.
        Sometimes guys like that are the most difficult too fight. Everyone trains for a textbook boxer.
        Sometimes you get a guy that is literally all over the place and throwing lead right hands from odd angles and you just struggle too find your timing or get into any real groove.

        I don't think its a big deal, to me it was quite similar to Floyd vs Maidana.
        Forest vs Mayorga and so on.
        Sometimes these bat**** crazy, physically strong wildmen are just a nightmare for textbook boxers and counterpunchers that like to set up traps.

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          #114
          Originally posted by 786
          It was the Hatton effect. In Manchester, Hatton could do what he wanted: maul, wrestle, low blow, use his head, forearms, refs would give him time to recover if he ever got hurt.....not saying he wouldn't have won those fights elsewhere but he had that 'special' home advantage that only few fighters can get away with. Horn had all those advantages that night with Pac, the whole package down to being saved from a stoppage loss. I honestly think Horn should've been disqualified that night, if not stopped, if not lose on points but he "somehow" got the nod.
          I remember when Hatton fought Lazcano and he got hurt and the ref gave him time to recover then stopped the fight for Hatton's corner to tie his shoe lace LMAO. It was the craziest but most obviously bias ref I've seen.

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          • MONGOOSE66
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            #115
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua

            Vargas was never ever gonna beat the great tito Trinidad.

            Trinidad had a better chin and way more power.

            There was no ending for tito-vargas that didn't end in Vargas getting ktfo.
            Hmmm, it would if been nice if Tito would of let it play out without the ball hits. Probably would of been a far better fight.

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            • Richard G
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              #116
              Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
              manny didn’t train hard and paid the price on fight night

              and Horn did whatever it took

              manny has always been lacking as a dirty fighter and an inside fighter

              this is how Horn did most his work
              Manny lacking as a dirty fighter?. hornet.jpg

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              • GrandpaBernard
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                #117
                Originally posted by dan_cov
                He's offbeat, a bit all over the place with no real rhythm.
                Sometimes guys like that are the most difficult too fight. Everyone trains for a textbook boxer.
                Sometimes you get a guy that is literally all over the place and throwing lead right hands from odd angles and you just struggle too find your timing or get into any real groove.

                I don't think its a big deal, to me it was quite similar to Floyd vs Maidana.
                Forest vs Mayorga and so on.
                Sometimes these bat**** crazy, physically strong wildmen are just a nightmare for textbook boxers and counterpunchers that like to set up traps.
                Horn also highlighted manny’s decline

                manny is supposed to be a stylistic nightmare for face first pressure fighters!

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                • BodyBagz
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza

                  There are numerous robberies that are extensively worse than Pacquaio-Horn.

                  Tito-DLH too.

                  I wouldn’t even call either of those two robberies in general to be honest.

                  To claim they’re two of top three robberies in the history of boxing is just a totally asinine statement.
                  I'm open to hear worse

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                  • BodyBagz
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by GrandpaBernard

                    Horn also highlighted manny’s decline

                    manny is supposed to be a stylistic nightmare for face first pressure fighters!
                    Well, Pac did OUT LAND Horn quite easily. Was never hurt and only got bloodied due to dirty tactics.
                    The only category Horn dominated in was sloppiness.

                    Obviously, numbers mean nothing

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                    • Left Hook Tua
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

                      Hmmm, it would if been nice if Tito would of let it play out without the ball hits. Probably would of been a far better fight.
                      He beat the crap out of Vargas

                      Nitpick something else, re tarded to nitpick a blowout fight

                      Tito was one of the greatest fighters of his generation

                      Very good chin, great power

                      a hot headed Vargas that is always willing to exchange but has a weak chin and less power was never gonna beat tito

                      He couldn't even slug it out with fading delahoya let alone prime tito

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