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  • Originally posted by Spoon23 View Post

    You are self proclaimed troll hater. You just admitted you're a nuisance to the forum.

    It's one thing to not know you are a troll. It's another thing when you know you are one.

    You should be band for admitting you are truly a troll. The countless nonsense posts you put here is one of the reasons why this forum is deteriorating..

    And the sad part is you are proud of it.

    That's how I know you really are re-tarded. No one in the right mind should be proud of what you do. I guess having lost some chromosomes at birth cost your inadequate mental growth.

    I guess NSB is a forum that are kind to re-tards since they allow you to do this in a daily basis.

    Carry on.
    I admitted to having good reasons for hating Pac
    1) His overrated resume.
    2) His insufferable fans

    You bois reaffirm my reasons every time. Avoiding the 8 ''great'' names. Ignoring your double standards. Refusing to accept facts. The list goes on. But as you see, when a robbery has been committed, I will call them out. This is one of the more egregious.

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    • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

      Why do you need that question answering?

      A robbery is a fight in which the guy who lost clearly won atleast 7 (8 in a 15 rounder) rounds.

      Not the case for 2 of your examples and definitely not the case for Tito-Oscar.

      Even if you were to consider it a robbery (it’s not), to put Tito-Oscar as a Top 3 robbery of all time is just preposterous and nonsensical when you have fights like Whitaker-Ramirez where Whitaker won every round and lost the decision.

      And the list goes on
      Well, there are many experts who would call Horn getting the W a terrible display of officiating. Not many fights have such distinctions. Since you know what a robbery looks like, you should then examine what do the robberies YOU RECOGNIZE have in common with this. Ok, Horn was clumsily aggressive (even though Pac still out landed him in EVERY category). IF you're of the ''numbers don't tell the story'' club, THEN WHAT DOES ?!?!? And are those stats more important to scoring than punches landed ?!?!?!

      Missing at a high rate > jabs landed ?!?!?

      I need to know what stat can a Horn fan point to OTHER THAN INEFFECTIVE AGGRESSION that Horn dominated Pac in ??? If punch stats are not important, let's have the stats that are.

      I stand by me top 3 but thanks for your list.

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      • Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

        Well, there are many experts who would call Horn getting the W a terrible display of officiating. Not many fights have such distinctions. Since you know what a robbery looks like, you should then examine what do the robberies YOU RECOGNIZE have in common with this. Ok, Horn was clumsily aggressive (even though Pac still out landed him in EVERY category). IF you're of the ''numbers don't tell the story'' club, THEN WHAT DOES ?!?!? And are those stats more important to scoring than punches landed ?!?!?!

        Missing at a high rate > jabs landed ?!?!?

        I need to know what stat can a Horn fan point to OTHER THAN INEFFECTIVE AGGRESSION that Horn dominated Pac in ??? If punch stats are not important, let's have the stats that are.

        I stand by me top 3 but thanks for your list.
        You can stand by your three as much as you please, it doesn’t make them any less garbage.

        Tito-Oscar top 3 robbery of all time? That’s comedy more than anything.

        Horn didn’t dominate Pacquaio in any category.

        Pacquaio also didn’t clearly win 7 rounds. Simple as that really. He could have if he didn’t give many of the championship rounds away.

        Regardless, bad decision or not. To compare them to say Santa Cruz-Casamayor as another example, a flat out, CLEAR AS DAY, robbery, is ridiculous.

        They’re are robberies out there when the loser won every round or almost every round. Such as many of the ones I listed. Certainly not the case with your 2 examples, even if you deem them to be robberies.

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        • Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post

          You can stand by your three as much as you please, it doesn’t make them any less garbage.

          Tito-Oscar top 3 robbery of all time? That’s comedy more than anything.

          Horn didn’t dominate Pacquaio in any category.

          Pacquaio also didn’t clearly win 7 rounds. Simple as that really. He could have if he didn’t give many of the championship rounds away.

          Regardless, bad decision or not. To compare them to say Santa Cruz-Casamayor as another example, a flat out, CLEAR AS DAY, robbery, is ridiculous.

          They’re are robberies out there when the loser won every round or almost every round. Such as many of the ones I listed. Certainly not the case with your 2 examples, even if you deem them to be robberies.
          We both have high opinions of our opinions.....But this was a robbery of epic proportions. Pac dominated in every aspect except rough housing and Horn was pretty much clumsy in that area as well.

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          • Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

            We both have high opinions of our opinions.....But this was a robbery of epic proportions. Pac dominated in every aspect except rough housing and Horn was pretty much clumsy in that area as well.
            Not really, not in reality

            For starters Horn clearly won the 1st, 6th and 12th, so there’s 3 rounds he definitely won.

            You could argue he won the 2nd, 4th, 7th and 10th aswell which were all close rounds.

            So there’s 7 rounds you COULD give for Horn. Which is why it’s not even a robbery.

            Even for arguments if you take 2 of those close rounds out and say they’re not close, it’s still 5 rounds you can give Horn.

            Now go and watch any example I gave you and you can’t do that. Those are actual robberies were the guy who lost/drew CLEARLY won 7 or more rounds. Some of which the guy who lost the fight CLEARLY won 10 or more rounds

            You’re entitled to your opinion, doesn’t stop it being wrong.

            Just take this year alone, there are worst robberies than those 2 fights you listed this year, immediate example being Vasquez-Ritson.
            Last edited by IronDanHamza; 08-05-2021, 01:05 PM.

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            • #15 on the Blame Bob list

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              • is that a good job for you? dirty job is now a good job? really these casual fans are so terrible..

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                • He used his size well vs Manny and made it more of a fight, and less of a boxing match.

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                  • Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post

                    We both have high opinions of our opinions.....But this was a robbery of epic proportions. Pac dominated in every aspect except rough housing and Horn was pretty much clumsy in that area as well.
                    A robbery of epic proportions eh. Sure it wasn't a robbery of humungous, blatant, terrific, dynamic, epic proportions? Plenty of posters have given sound reasons why Horn could be said to have won but you reject them all, I'm thinking that's because you don't understand them. To carry on with just your Boxrec point is just dumb and trolling. Show some sense or piss off.

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                    • Strictly home cooking. Anywhere else in the whole world besides Australia, Pac wins this fight. Given the magnitude of the fight, horrendous decision.

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