Why did JEFF HORN do such a good job against Pacquiao?

[-Kev-]

Errol like Horn is a pressure guy but much better

ofc manny will train harder for Spence

still Errol only needs to do marginally better than Horn to clearly beat manny

Errol Spence is not a pressure guy at all.

I did not see this pressure vs Mikey Garcia, a Lightweight, Porter, or Garcia.

Maybe he showed pressure vs Algieri.

But a fighter is who he is when he steps up.

If a guy is a KO artist vs bums, but goes the distance vs the best, then he is not a KO artist.

[-Kev-]

I had JMM win 9 rounds vs Pacquiao in the trilogy. No matter how many times I view it. JMM won 8 or 9 rounds.

Pacquiao beat up and battered Horn. In boxing, I view punches, not who is winning the wrestling or grappling aspect of it. Yes, Horn outwrestled Pacquiao. But Pacquiao beat up and battered Horn. Going by just punches landed, Pacquiao won, and the frequency of punches landed, and how much they look like they hurt. If you add wrestling or holding, okay sure. But wrestling and holding aren’t scoring criteria in boxing. Horn got beat up so bad no matter what amount of wrestling, that the fight should have been stopped. He probably knew what was up. They told him to just survive and he will get the W. Just take the beating and hold on to him for 12 rounds and you will win. The fix was most likely in and everyone but Pacquiao and his team knew.

Contrary to what people think, I did not think the ref was against Pacquiao. He was just incompetent. But the ref was itching to stop the fight due to Horn getting such a big beating. He should have done a better job but he was just incompetent.

[GrandpaBernard]

Errol Spence is not a pressure guy at all.

I did not see this pressure vs Mikey Garcia, a Lightweight, Porter, or Garcia.

Maybe he showed pressure vs Algieri.

But a fighter is who he is when he steps up.

If a guy is a KO artist vs bums, but goes the distance vs the best, then he is not a KO artist.

Will see how fight plays out

Errol can’t dance as well as Floyd, but imo his jab will say more than Floyd’s stick did

[Spoon23]

Errol Spence is not a pressure guy at all.

I did not see this pressure vs Mikey Garcia, a Lightweight, Porter, or Garcia.

Maybe he showed pressure vs Algieri.

But a fighter is who he is when he steps up.

If a guy is a KO artist vs bums, but goes the distance vs the best, then he is not a KO artist.

Hmm.. good point. He seems to be a pressure fighter only to lesser fighters. He can't even be a pressure fighter to Mikey or Porter..

Algieri is a weak gatekeeper. Anyone in the elite level can pressure Algieri which he did.. but yeah, you have a point.. Seems like he can only pressurize C level fighters.

[BodyBagz]

How long have you got? We’d be here all day if I really had time to think about it.

Whitaker-Ramirez
Whitaker-Chavez
Johnson-Pastrano
Toney-Tiberi
Rios-Abril
Casamayor-Santa Cruz
Williams-Lara
Lewis-Holyfield 1

That’s just off the top of my head. All of the above not debatable who should have won.

Pacquiao-Horn and De La Hoya-Tito not even in the same stratosphere.

Especially De La Hoya-Tito, that’s barely a bad decision at all really.

Oscar-Mosley 2 and Oscar-Sturm for example were way worse decisions than Oscar-Tito.

OK, what MAKES THEM ROBBERIES ?

[BodyBagz]

Punch stats don't always tell the full story, horn bullied him for much of that fight roughed him up and controlled the action. There wasn't much in the fight. End of the day manny just under performed.

It's a story that's been told after EVERY FIGHT for the past how many decades ? Hate to break it to you but robberies do exist.

[Spoon23]

And it wasn't even that good of a punch. Pac didn't even blink

I'm the biggest Pac hater (or so I thought) and there is no way in hell a person can justify that decision.

You are really? No... really?

[BodyBagz]

You are really? No... really?

The thing that separates me from most haters is I tell the truth. No need to embellish or create falsehoods.

[IronDanHamza]

OK, what MAKES THEM ROBBERIES ?

Why do you need that question answering?

A robbery is a fight in which the guy who lost clearly won atleast 7 (8 in a 15 rounder) rounds.

Not the case for 2 of your examples and definitely not the case for Tito-Oscar.

Even if you were to consider it a robbery (it’s not), to put Tito-Oscar as a Top 3 robbery of all time is just preposterous and nonsensical when you have fights like Whitaker-Ramirez where Whitaker won every round and lost the decision.

And the list goes on

[Spoon23]

The thing that separates me from most haters is I tell the truth. No need to embellish or create falsehoods.

You are self proclaimed troll hater. You just admitted you're a nuisance to the forum.

It's one thing to not know you are a troll. It's another thing when you know you are one.

You should be band for admitting you are truly a troll. The countless nonsense posts you put here is one of the reasons why this forum is deteriorating..

And the sad part is you are proud of it.

That's how I know you really are re-tarded. No one in the right mind should be proud of what you do. I guess having lost some chromosomes at birth cost your inadequate mental growth.

I guess NSB is a forum that are kind to re-tards since they allow you to do this in a daily basis.

Carry on.