What is the greater win? Duran over Barkley or Pacquiao over Spence?

[Clegg]

Anyone who thinks pac has a shot in hell of beating Spence needs to get their head examined.

Back in the 80s NSB said the same thing about Duran's chances vs Barkley though

[Left Hook Tua]

Back in the 80s NSB said the same thing about Duran's chances vs Barkley though

Holy f@ck it's Clegg

What next a southpaw stinger or oasis lad post?

[TonyGe]

Got to be Duran over Barkley if Pac manages to beat Spence. Barkley beat an absolute monster and ATG in Tommy Hearns. Hearns had previously destroyed Duran with a emphatic KO that still makes highlight reels. Hearns was a better fighter than Spence. Better boxer, better better jab and had scarey power. Nobody gave Duran a chance. Duran's family and friends actually feared for Duran's saftey before this fight.

[hugh grant]

Got to be Duran over Barkley if Pac manages to beat Spence. Barkley beat an absolute monster and ATG in Tommy Hearns. Hearns had previously destroyed Duran with a emphatic KO that still makes highlight reels. Hearns was a better fighter than Spence. Better boxer, better better jab and had scarey power. Nobody gave Duran a chance. Duran's family and friends actually feared for Duran's saftey before this fight.

None of this makes sense and nothing you say adds up. Tommy Hearne wasn't a monster by the time Barkley fought him and Barkley lost his 2 next fights. Barkley was basic, spence is better all round.
If Pac wasn't better than duran, like people believe Pac is, people would fear for Pac also. As it is spence is only slight favourute because Pac is still so good

[TonyGe]

None of this makes sense and nothing you say adds up. Tommy Hearne wasn't a monster by the time Barkley fought him and Barkley lost his 2 next fights. Barkley was basic, spence is better all round.
If Pac wasn't better than duran, like people believe Pac is, people would fear for Pac also. As it is spence is only slight favourute because Pac is still so good

Go watch the fight. Was Spence really better than Barkley or did he fight inferior competition? Kell was a very good fighter but let's face it he was damaged goods at the time of the Spence fight. Mikey didn't have a chance against Spence and Danny didn't throw enough punches. Part of Danny's problem was Spence's great jab and bodywork which I've always admired but watching some of Danny's previous fights I've always thought his economical punch output would catch up to him against a top fighter. Barkley beat Virgil Hill, Micheal Olajidy and IMO beat Ray Leonard in the rematch in his previous fights prior to the loss to Barkley. He was still a great boxer whan he lost to Barkley. Despite his losses Barkley was a lot better than people gave him credit for. He made plenty of adjustments in the Duran fight. Don't get me wrong I really enjoy watching Spence and Pac. It's not a knock on either guy. As far as Barkleys record after the loss to Duran it's irrelevant. If Spence loses to Duran what is his record going to be after the lose? We don't know. He could just fall apart. Spence being only a slight favorite is also misleading. The car accident has a lot to do with that. I give Pac credit and respect for what he has accomplished. I never thought he would beat Thurman because of Thurman's movement and size. If he beats Spence I will give him credit and he is a remarkable fighter but in this case I don't think a win would be as significant as what Duran did to Barkley.

[hugh grant]

Go watch the fight. Was Spence really better than Barkley or did he fight inferior competition? Kell was a very good fighter but let's face it he was damaged goods at the time of the Spence fight. Mikey didn't have a chance against Spence and Danny didn't throw enough punches. Part of Danny's problem was Spence's great jab and bodywork which I've always admired but watvmching some of Danny's oervious fight Ive always though his economical punch output would catch up to him against a good fighter. Barkley beat Virgil Hill, Micheal Olajidy and IMO beat Ray Leonard in the rematch in his previous fights prior to the loss to Barkley. He was still a great boxer whan he lost to Barkley. Despite his losses Barkley was a lot better than people gave him credit for. He made plenty of adjustments in the Duran fight. Don't get me wrong I really enjoy watching Spence and Pac. It's not a knock on either guy. As far as Barkleys record after the loss to Duran it's irrelevant. If Spence loses to Duran what is his record going to be after the lose? We don't know. He could just fall apart. Spence being only a slight favorite is also misleading. The car accident has a lot to do with that. I give Pac credit and respect for what he has accomplished. I never thought he would beat Thurman because of Thurman's movement and size. If he beats Spence I will give him credit and he is a remarkable fighter but in this case I don't think a win would be as significant as what Duran did to Barkley.

I still literally have no idea what your saying. Pac s 5 years older than duran nearly if he beats spence and and Pac s fighting 7 divisions above original weight class. it's like you think 5 years is nothing! Was Barkley ever a top 10 pfp fighter?
And you have to add Pac s last win ito equation also. Look at Pac s last win is reason he's not a big unferdog, not so much car accident of spence
But your entitled to your opinion, but if you ignore certain things that others see as important issues when concluding, you will be seen as di sengenious

[TonyGe]

I still literally have no idea what your saying. Pac s 5 years older than duran nearly if he beats spence and and Pac s fighting 7 divisions above original weight class. it's like you think 5 years is nothing! Was Barkley ever a top 10 pfp fighter?
And you have to add Pac s last win ito equation also. Look at Pac s last win is reason he's not a big unferdog, not so much car accident of spence
But your entitled to your opinion, but if you ignore certain things that others see as important issues when concluding, you will be seen as di sengenious

Durans opponent Barkley had previously beat an ATG in Tommy Hearns and Tommy was not shot when he fought Barkley. Spence has never proven he is capable of doing such a thing. Duran fought 6 divisions over his original weight if weight jumping is important. He started as a Super Featherweight.

[hugh grant]

Durans opponent Barkley had previously beat an ATG in Tommy Hearns and Tommy was not shot when he fought Barkley. Spence has never proven he is capable of doing such a thing. Duran fought 6 divisions over his original weight if weight jumping is important. He started as a Super Featherweight.

Look, if hearns was thought of as a great fighter still at that point and Barkley beat him, then surely Barkley would be possib!y ranked pfp. Barkley not did much apart from that.
Surely spence being considered a pfp now for a quite a while as well as pac being older by 5 years makes pac s win more special.
You are trying to overanalyse and its not neccesary. It's not brain svience

[Tatabanya]

In spite of my huge admiration for Pacquiao, I'd vote for Duran vs Barkley.

Why? Because Pacman has actually never left the top level he's been fighting at to date. I will not be overly surprised if he beats Spence, whereas Duran was considered junk after the loss to Hearns. He was deemed finished, shot, whatever you want to call him. So, his win against Barkley was as remarkable as unexpected.

[hugh grant]

In spite of my huge admiration for Pacquiao, I'd vote for Duran vs Barkley.

Why? Because Pacman has actually never left the top level he's been fighting at to date. I will not be overly surprised if he beats Spence, whereas Duran was considered junk after the loss to Hearns. He was deemed finished, shot, whatever you want to call him. So, his win against Barkley was as remarkable as unexpected.

I think your talking duran beating barkley was a bigger upset as your saying duran wasn't looking good during that time, rather than a greater win, or more special. Just a bigger upset which is different to b eing a special win like pac beating spence in that former flyweights, with 70 fights under belt at tail end of careers don't best prime, undefeated pfp fighters. You can't hold pac still being so good against him. Pac can't help it, that if he beats spence it won't be such a big upset. Pac can't help he's still so good. At Pac s stage of career he should be a big underdog like duran was