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What is the greater win? Duran over Barkley or Pacquiao over Spence?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Poll should be Barkley or thurman.
    Thurman.
    If Duran was 40, let alone nearly 43 he wouldn't be beating barkley.
    Lets put pac-Thurman as pacs hopkins-pavlik moment

    Pac has so many moments similar to other atg

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    • #22
      Spence is held in higher regard and is more accomplished than Barkley so this would top it
      danceswithfire likes this.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post

        Lets put pac-Thurman as pacs hopkins-pavlik moment

        Pac has so many moments similar to other atg
        Pac beating thurman is greater than duran s win over barkley. Duran beating barkley 4 divisions North of his original division at 36 years of age. It's been done in history.
        what pac did 7 divisions North of his original weight division at 40 never has been done.
        I wish people would compare like for like and stop doing pac s supposed equals favours and stop blatantly discriminating against pac, do they really think it's not noticed?!
        Last edited by hugh grant; 07-27-2021, 06:24 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post
          Another factor to consider is that Duran had 91 fights at the time he fought Barkley. That would be 20 more fights than Manny has right now. Those 20 additional fights can age you and put more wear and tear on your body. I think taking that into consideration would make each of these wins just about equally great if Pacquiao wins. If I had to choose one I'd give a slight edge to a Pacquiao win over Spence.
          If you're including the amount of fights as a factor, then you must include the amount of amateur fights as well. That would put Pac like 20-30 more fights than Duran?

          With that, Pac fighting Thurman and Spence is considerably better than Duran's win over Barkley. Not only Pac is older than Duran, but had been in more wars than Duran.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
            Which one is the greater win?

            Duran decision win over Barkley?

            Pacquiao likely ko/tko win over Spence?

            Duran 5'7 38 yr. old natural lightweight vs. Barkley 6'1 29 yr. old middleweight with 25-4-0 record.

            Pacquiao 5'5 43 yr. old natural featherweight vs. Spence 5'10 31 yr. old welterweight with 27-0 record.

            Duran was in his 21st year in boxing.

            Pacquiao is in his 26th year in boxing.
            Have to go with Duran over Barkley as the other fight isn't gonna happem.

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            • #26
              Barkley was a bum, so, IF Pac wins, duh....

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BodyBagz View Post
                Barkley was a bum, so, IF Pac wins, duh....
                I'm not sure if Barkley was a bum

                He was in boxing a long time

                He got his ass beat by some great guys though

                duran, benn, toney, Nunn


                Most of his losses were at 175 and up

                A lot of them was when he was old and trying to fight at heavy

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                • #28
                  So what sort of 'win' are we talking about for Pacquiao, a real win where he clearly beats his opponent or one of those pretend wins where he gets beaten but he really won because the fight was rigged? What with pactrad talk it's hard to know what 'wins' are being talked about.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post

                    I'm not sure if Barkley was a bum

                    He was in boxing a long time

                    He got his ass beat by some great guys though

                    duran, benn, toney, Nunn


                    Most of his losses were at 175 and up

                    A lot of them was when he was old and trying to fight at heavy
                    His style was so primitive and basic. I don't know people refer to him as a solid name when he might have 2 good wins.

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                    • #30
                      Pacquiao's win would be greater

                      and it would cement his ATG status and legacy as greater than punkass Floydette's

                      it already is, but it would confirm it even more

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