My first introduction to boxing was with Duran vs Barkley. I think i was 5-6 years old at that time when my pops took me out to a bar and had some dog meat back in the Philippines. Me being 37 years old now makes me think that if Pacquiao wins against Spence then it would definitely fall under the same category. What was and would be a great experience! War Pacquiao!!
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What is the greater win? Duran over Barkley or Pacquiao over Spence?
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
Look, if hearns was thought of as a great fighter still at that point and Barkley beat him, then surely Barkley would be possib!y ranked pfp. Barkley not did much apart from that.
Surely spence being considered a pfp now for a quite a while as well as pac being older by 5 years makes pac s win more special.
You are trying to overanalyse and its not neccesary. It's not brain svience
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
I think your talking duran beating barkley was a bigger upset as your saying duran wasn't looking good during that time, rather than a greater win, or more special. Just a bigger upset which is different to b eing a special win like pac beating spence in that former flyweights, with 70 fights under belt at tail end of careers don't best prime, undefeated pfp fighters. You can't hold pac still being so good against him. Pac can't help it, that if he beats spence it won't be such a big upset. Pac can't help he's still so good. At Pac s stage of career he should be a big underdog like duran was
However, consider that Duran also started as a lightweight... it's not the same as flyweight, I know, but still remarkable. Also, Barkley was coming from the Hearns knockout, at that time he looked scary.
But yes - based on your analysis, I think I understood what you mean and it makes sense for sure.
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Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
Yes, you're probably right.
However, consider that Duran also started as a lightweight... it's not the same as flyweight, I know, but still remarkable. Also, Barkley was coming from the Hearns knockout, at that time he looked scary.
But yes - based on your analysis, I think I understood what you mean and it makes sense for sure.
Pac is beating arguably the best WW, arguably one of the best in any weight. Don't think Barkley was quite there
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Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
Duran beating Barkley was a great win and Barkley was scary looking I agree. But I think Errol is a better fighter. I think there were a handful better fighters at 160 than Barkley at the time, whilst Errol has case for being the best WW.
Pac is beating arguably the best WW, arguably one of the best in any weight. Don't think Barkley was quite there
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Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
So funny that we're both speaking of Pacquiao vs Spence as a sure win for Manny, which it's not... but sure as hell I'd love it to happen.
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Originally posted by Tatabanya View Post
Yes, you're probably right.
However, consider that Duran also started as a lightweight... it's not the same as flyweight, I know, but still remarkable. Also, Barkley was coming from the Hearns knockout, at that time he looked scary.
But yes - based on your analysis, I think I understood what you mean and it makes sense for sure.Last edited by TonyGe; 08-02-2021, 09:38 PM.Tatabanya likes this.
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Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View PostWhich one is the greater win?
Duran decision win over Barkley?
Pacquiao likely ko/tko win over Spence?
Duran 5'7 38 yr. old natural lightweight vs. Barkley 6'1 29 yr. old middleweight with 25-4-0 record.
Pacquiao 5'5 43 yr. old natural featherweight vs. Spence 5'10 31 yr. old welterweight with 27-0 record.
Duran was in his 21st year in boxing.
Pacquiao is in his 26th year in boxing.
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