Comments Thread For: Joe Joyce Fights Through Early Fire, Stops Carlos Takam in Sixth

[Dare7]

The Joshua fight stoppage was worse than the Joyce stoppage.

I don't think so. The Joshua-Takam fight was so one-sided. Joshua was hitting Takam way too bad with different types of combos in the face and Takam couldn't reply plus the fact that Takam had a minor cut already that would have gotten worse.

[paulf]

An American ref would have let it go a couple punches longer. Result would have been the same.

Takam is a tomato can who is continually hyped by the British press as a serious gatekeep. Never has been. He got a decision over Tony Thompson a decade ago and somehow that makes him the boogie man. It's laughable.

Every fight against a decent fighter he's in goes the same: he lands some shots early, but he has no power so the opponent isn't bothered. Then he gasses out quickly because he's got no stamina. Crumbles and gets stopped.

Yet in six months time, Dubois or someone will be due to face him and again the British press will be talking about him like he's Frankenstein's monster. Total joke.

[Stuntman Mike]

The Nash says, Joyce hurt Takam once, couldn't land anything else of note, so the ref had to finish Takam off for him. That's what happened. Nash out.

What way did the great Nash see the fight playing out after? Did Nash think the ref stopped the fight for Joyce's favour but he should have in fact stopped in takams favour?

Did you see takam taking punches without slipping or punching back to tire Joyce out ...did takam steal Joyce's ability to take punches

What happened in nashs mind

did Nash lose a bet?

Is Nash wrong again?

does Nash have an agenda?


Poor Nash wrong again the stoppage was perfect takam had nothing left and it would have been a shame for the fight to go on any longer

He was finished but a good learning curve for you to go back and study a proper stoppage

Imagine takam was a family member of Nash like a son or a father was it still a bad stoppage or is it because Nash has no ties to takam that he'd like to see a sustained beating

Takam already landed his best shots when he was fresh my friend he had zero chance of an upset at that point and was suffering

[Toffee]

20 punches? You are exaggerating! This is boxing and I believe Takam still got a fight in him still in that fight, it's true he got hurt but not yet out or down. The referee was probably nervous and jumped in too quickly for my liking. In my eyes joe was getting punched in the face a lot, it's true the latter rounds joe would have closed the show but in heavyweights there are still chances especially with a punch you might not see coming. That sixth round stoppage was too early for me, there should have been a seventh round to see how Takam would look.

I believe Joe Joyce's face will get hit a lot with the top dogs and his chin that he depends on by disappoint him as he fights on. It's only a matter of time.

I agree with a lot of what you say, but not about the stoppage.

I just went back and watched. After the initial left hook from Joyce, Takam at least swung a few times without landing, but in the closing sequence Joyce threw 35 punches unanswered. He landed more than half even if not all were particularly damaging. But Takam had stopped fighting back.

You can't let him carry on when he's just standing there taking punches. Eventually Joyce was going to land the one that knocked him out. There's no need to wait for that when the guy isn't fighting back.

[Zelda]

Takam will give a good account of himself in the earlier rounds but Joyce wins by stoppage in the later rounds. I give it 75-25 in favor of Joyce.

I wasn't wrong though the TKO came a round or two earlier.

Joyce is a modern version of Foreman...strong, powerful, slow, not a great variety of shots, and an iron chin. He hangs in there taking quite a few shots but eventually wins against everyone who isn't an elite-level fighter. I don't see Joyce beating Joshua or Wilder or Fury. His best bet is to find a modern-day Moorer and win a belt but he'll lose it soon afterwards.

If someone can make Joyce fight at 1.5x or 2.0x, he is a world champ for sure.

[I have no ears]

Good showing from juggernaut, although against a limited fighter in takam, but carlos always manages to land some good shots against anyone he fights, and the chin of Joe Joyce, holy f! I know it's already been said but my gosh he literally walks through big shots and never seems fazed in the slightest, people keep saying when he takes one from Joshua he'll be down and out but I haven't seen him hurt yet in the pro ranks and if the fury Joshua unification never happens, atleast the Joyce Joshua fight will happen quicker and we'll get to see how his chin really holds up against the elite

[Monty Fisto]

I wasn't wrong though the TKO came a round or two earlier.

Joyce is a modern version of Foreman...strong, powerful, slow, not a great variety of shots, and an iron chin. He hangs in there taking quite a few shots but eventually wins against everyone who isn't an elite-level fighter. I don't see Joyce beating Joshua or Wilder or Fury. His best bet is to find a modern-day Moorer and win a belt but he'll lose it soon afterwards.

If someone can make Joyce fight at 1.5x or 2.0x, he is a world champ for sure.

Definitely a lot about his style of fighting that is reminscent of Foreman. Nothing seems to make him panic -- goes about his business methodically, chopping his opponent down blow by blow. Doesn't have Foreman power, but I think Joe isn't that interested in comitting fully to delivering KO power in his shots. A lot of his punches are sort of pushed because he doesn't develop as much power as he could from his waist and legs, but because of this he is always very well balanced after he has thrown and ready for what is coming back.

The top guys may beat him, but I don't see any of them rushing to face him either.

[Nash out]

What way did the great Nash see the fight playing out after? Did Nash think the ref stopped the fight for Joyce's favour but he should have in fact stopped in takams favour?

Did you see takam taking punches without slipping or punching back to tire Joyce out ...did takam steal Joyce's ability to take punches

What happened in nashs mind

did Nash lose a bet?

Is Nash wrong again?

does Nash have an agenda?


Poor Nash wrong again the stoppage was perfect takam had nothing left and it would have been a shame for the fight to go on any longer

He was finished but a good learning curve for you to go back and study a proper stoppage

Imagine takam was a family member of Nash like a son or a father was it still a bad stoppage or is it because Nash has no ties to takam that he'd like to see a sustained beating

Takam already landed his best shots when he was fresh my friend he had zero chance of an upset at that point and was suffering

No, Nash rarely bets on fights in England (refs/judges) Nash feels that Joyce had turned the tide at this stage, but reverse the fighters at the end and the ref does not jump in and stop Joyce. This is an absolute fact.

Nash picked Takam as a good outside bet to win the fight at 7-1, and how the fight played out, showed that he was, as he was without a doubt ahead on points at the time of the stoppage.

The Nash feels that Joyce was to easy to hit in those early rounds and if those shots were coming from the great Deontay Wilder, that he would still be asleep now. Nash out.

[Roberto Vasquez]

Wow this was a terrible stoppage. Why not issue a standing count in a situation like this and tell the boxer he's in danger of being stopped??? The UK is just embarrassing for early stoppages ( I live here!)

I like Joyce but he showed his limitations. He will clearly get stopped if he goes in with someone like Wilder. I think Joshua and even Whyte would stop him too. He is just too easy to hit. I think Joyce will ultimately end up ranked 5 or 6th in the division. Boxers like Usyk or Fury would out box him for 12 rounds.

[Zelda]

Definitely a lot about his style of fighting that is reminscent of Foreman. Nothing seems to make him panic -- goes about his business methodically, chopping his opponent down blow by blow. Doesn't have Foreman power, but I think Joe isn't that interested in comitting fully to delivering KO power in his shots. A lot of his punches are sort of pushed because he doesn't develop as much power as he could from his waist and legs, but because of this he is always very well balanced after he has thrown and ready for what is coming back.

The top guys may beat him, but I don't see any of them rushing to face him either.

Unlike Foreman, he ain't that popular and doesn't bring in a lot of PPV buys. So, it is understandable none of the top guys are rushing to face him. He is a risk without a reward at the moment. He will have to wait for his mandatory turn.

Agree with the rest of your post regarding his style. But I fear it may also be his limitation for when he faces fast hands with power.