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  • Stuntman Mike
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    #51
    Originally posted by Nash out

    Wlad impressed vs Haye because Haye is garbage. Nash is a very well-respected member of boxingscene, people appreciate his insight and fight predictions. In time, you as well will learn to love Nash. He is a boxing historian and knows his stuff. Nash out.
    I didn't say wlad impressed vs haye I said he impressed against Joshua because Joshua is so flat footed with a severe lack of head movement

    However he looked not so impressive against haye because he had some of the best head movement in the game at the time and also an extremely fast and powerful puncher.. so wlad couldn't get overly excited

    but you believe what you want there's obviously an agenda and I think the endgame in your mind is Joshua's schlong in your mouth or perhaps some other orifice because you're definitely practicing riding that D

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      #52
      Originally posted by JakeTheBoxer
      Usyk is top 5 hw. No sh.it he beats the most of guys on Fury`s, Joshua`s and Wilder`s resume.
      Based on what ? Cause he hasn't shown it.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

        I didn't say wlad impressed vs haye I said he impressed against Joshua because Joshua is so flat footed with a severe lack of head movement

        However he looked not so impressive against haye because he had some of the best head movement in the game at the time and also an extremely fast and powerful puncher.. so wlad couldn't get overly excited

        but you believe what you want there's obviously an agenda and I think the endgame in your mind is Joshua's schlong in your mouth or perhaps some other orifice because you're definitely practicing riding that D
        The Nash says that he isn't a Joshua fan, though he enjoys his fights, he finds him very boring outside of the ring. Nash's favourite is Tyson Fury, though he is also a big fan of Canelo, Golovkin, Crawford, and many more. Nash out.

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          #54
          Originally posted by Nash out

          Joshua has two beatings from Tyson Fury to look forward to. Taco Vendor Ruiz is a tough competitor, a great eater, and a helluva fighter. He is worthy of respect. Nash out.
          Fury would lose to Joshua he wouldn't even make it to the ring he's a mental midget and a con man the guys literally tried to kill himself because he's so pathetic

          The worst heavyweight champion of all time and certainly the least respected

          I guess you look up to him because you both try to take your own lives shortly after rubbing sleep out your eyes in the morning but chicken out and he goes on to train with unpadded gloves against unsuspecting sparring partners who are already zombie like from having their water spiked and you close all the curtains in the house have a pot noodle and get on boxingscene to ride that gypsy pen into the sunset

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            #55
            We have yet to see Usyk vs a top HW.

            We have seen Ortiz at least against Jennings, Thompson, Kayode, Scott.

            Ortiz most likely does a lot better against Chisora than Usyk did. He looked mediocre vs Chisora, for a guy ranked top 10 P4P. We have seen Chisora get stopped hard by a CW coming up in weight, David Haye. A while ago, prime Chisora.

            So no, that would not be Wilder's best win. Second best, okay. Not better than Ortiz, at least not yet. He has not shown that. So I don't know how you can say that. Like did Usyk beat Ortiz or something? That's like saying Andrade would be the best matchup on GGG's resume at 160. Harder than Jacobs, even though Jacobs beat better fighters at 160 than Andrade has. Andrade's resume at 160 is like non-existent, piss poor. Just like Usyk's resume at HW.

            I am not saying Usyk can't develop into a good HW, just saying we have not seen that. And sorry but lower-weight resume and amateur accolades don't carry everywhere you go. JMM is better than Zab Judah, P4P, HOF, ATG list, better resume, more accomplishments, everything, JMM is better. But JMM didn't win one round vs Mayweather while Judah won like 4 rounds and unofficially knocked him down. Anyone who sees Mayweather vs Judah would say it was more competitive than Mayweather vs JMM.

            If you are just talking about names, I am not even sure about that.

            Wilder lost to a 6'9" dude who had 40lbs on him, now everyone can beat Wilder. No matter what, anyone can beat him. Usyk is undersized, small as a HW? Doesn't matter, Tyson Fury beat Wilder, Usyk can too. I don't want to hear anything. Anyone can. All Usyk has to do is copy Fury and he will win. Usyk is going to use his height, reach and weight advantage on Wilder and pressure him. The blueprint. Whyte, Joyce, Parker, Ruiz, Hunter, Usyk, anyone can use Fury's gameplan and beat Wilder. Wilder might as well retire after the Fury trilogy and save himself from all those losses.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

              Fury would lose to Joshua he wouldn't even make it to the ring he's a mental midget and a con man the guys literally tried to kill himself because he's so pathetic

              The worst heavyweight champion of all time and certainly the least respected

              I guess you look up to him because you both try to take your own lives shortly after rubbing sleep out your eyes in the morning but chicken out and he goes on to train with unpadded gloves against unsuspecting sparring partners who are already zombie like from having their water spiked and you close all the curtains in the house have a pot noodle and get on boxingscene to ride that gypsy pen into the sunset
              The Nash says that Fury will never lose a fight. He even went over to WWE and beat Braun Strowman. He is the fighting King of the world. Nobody thought he would beat Strowman at his own game, but he did, and now, many think that maybe, he could even have beaten a prime Stone Cold Steve Austin. Nash out.

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                #57
                Originally posted by ralex
                He’d be every heavyweights best win

                maybe besides Fury over Klitschko
                I think Fury over wlad and wilder is better than Usyk imo. Usyk is a better boxer than wilder but not a better HWT the 1st fight, which I thought Fury won.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by REDEEMER

                  No ones bragging about anything you guys just don’t like facts .

                  Wlad will most likely come back if he wants to beat Foreman’s record and if he did he would replace Wilder as a top 3 guy if he doesn’t leave which I’m guessing he will soon ,I’d bank anything on that . The thing is Wilder would never fight Wlad he doesn’t fight capable boxer punchers . However AJ is going to be the road block not Fury or Wilder who are annoying . At this point only their hard core fans support what they are doing because they don’t actually like boxing they like Fury or Wilder .
                  I'm confused how any of this supports the idea Wlad is a better win for Joshua than the prime undefeated former undisputed CW champion.

                  He was ready for a loss when Tyson beat him, took two years off, and well passed his prime. It's not a good a win as you want to believe and not amount of trashing Wilder will change that.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Marchegiano

                    I'm confused how any of this supports the idea Wlad is a better win for Joshua than the prime undefeated former undisputed CW champion.

                    He was ready for a loss when Tyson beat him, took two years off, and well passed his prime. It's not a good a win as you want to believe and not amount of trashing Wilder will change that.
                    Well your lying because Wlad wasn’t out 2 years so ? In any event he was much more prepared for AJ the fight was signed in 2016 but postponed so your completely wrong there as well . As some mentioned Wlad has far more worse performances in his younger years when coming back after a loss so the excuses of he’s to old all of a sudden is hilarious even when Peter Fury told the media AJ has a tougher fight then Fury had ahead of him against an aggressive Klitschko but you ignore stuff like that because it interferes with your logic which is right on par and exceeds Silly Billy’s ....

                    Two crazies on here who have no problem lying and fabricated things on here and or just not smart enough knowing they do it all the time, idk ? Ha
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                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 07-25-2021, 06:20 PM.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by REDEEMER

                      Well your lying because Wlad wasn’t out 2 years so ? In any event he was much more prepared for AJ the fight was signed in 2016 but postponed so your completely wrong there as well . As some mentioned Wlad has far more worse performances in his younger years when coming back after a loss so the excuses of he’s to old all of a sudden is hilarious even when Peter Fury told the media AJ has a tougher fight then Fury had ahead of him against an aggressive Klitschko but you ignore stuff like that because it interferes with your logic which is right on par and exceeds Silly Billy’s ....

                      Two crazies on here who have no problem lying and fabricated things on here and or just not smart enough knowing they do it all the time, idk ? Ha
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