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  • REDEEMER
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    #41
    Originally posted by JULESLUPOWITZ
    Usyk can beat Wilder, easily. He’ll be cautious at first but once he settles he’ll start getting fancy and beat his ass. He’s much better schooled, faster & smarter.
    He might beat Wilder but for Usyk it won’t be easy ,he’ll be on edge every second much like AJ ,he might make it look easy but he’ll be susceptible to the Wilder straight right hand . Usyk will get away with mistakes against Wilder will he with AJ ? I don’t think so he has to be at his best ever and still I don’t see him winning .
    Last edited by REDEEMER; 07-23-2021, 05:23 PM.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Marchegiano

      I agree with the first bit, Wlad though, the Fury fans are right on that one; y'all Joshua fans are bragging about leftovers.

      Even Fury's win isn't that great considering at that time Wlad's own fans were hoping he'd retire soon because they didn't want to see him lose to someone he'd've beaten a few years prior. Especially since the Jennings fight. So I tend to agree with the but he was old crowd. It was called before it happened, folks said Wlad would lose soon then it happened, twice. There's more to that then either of y'all camps would like to admit.
      No ones bragging about anything you guys just don’t like facts .

      Wlad will most likely come back if he wants to beat Foreman’s record and if he did he would replace Wilder as a top 3 guy if he doesn’t leave which I’m guessing he will soon ,I’d bank anything on that . The thing is Wilder would never fight Wlad he doesn’t fight capable boxer punchers . However AJ is going to be the road block not Fury or Wilder who are annoying . At this point only their hard core fans support what they are doing because they don’t actually like boxing they like Fury or Wilder .
      Last edited by REDEEMER; 07-23-2021, 05:29 PM.

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      • Stuntman Mike
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        #43
        Originally posted by Nash out

        "prime" Wlad had far worse performances than Jennings, who he beat at least 10-2. Fury beat prime Wlad, in fact, 18 months later, Joshua also beat prime Wlad. What exactly had Wlad lost? He was as strong, as fast, and as durable as he ever had been. Tyson Fury is the greatest HW of all time. It's clear to those who know their boxing like Nash. Nash out is a boxing historian, a tough competitor, and helluva poster. Nash out.
        Watch 2 mins of wlad vs haye then watch 2 mins of wlad vs jennings

        A tremendous difference in relexes and speed

        Wlad was prime 2010 2011

        most primes are for a year or two then they slightly decline afterwards some quicker than others

        There no way he just suddenly turned prime against fury and it lasted until Joshua its absolutely ridiculous you need to start commenting on sport you know more about my friend because boxing is not for you

        And if you knew boxing you'd know strength and power are the last things to go when most are out of their primes it's more due to reflex of avoiding punches and hesitation to land their own punches

        Joshua is static, wlad would have gave him a one sided beating had it been the wladimir that fought haye
        Last edited by Stuntman Mike; 07-23-2021, 05:41 PM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

          Watch 2 mins of wlad vs haye then watch 2 mins of wlad vs jennings

          A tremendous difference in relexes and speed

          Wlad was prime 2010 2011

          most primes are for a year or two then they slightly decline afterwards some quicker than others

          There no way he just suddenly turned prime against fury and it lasted until Joshua its absolutely ridiculous you need to start commenting on sport you know more about my friend because boxing is not for you
          Wlad fought in two different styles, sometimes he'd be explosive, others he'd bore to a points win. Wlad impressed me more vs Joshua, than he did against Tony Bellew's *****, David Haye. Live and learn, boy. Stick with it, you'll pick it up eventually. Nash out - Boxingscene Hall of Famer.

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            #45
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            Given Usyk’s age and p4p status, wouldn’t it be a better win than 41 yr old wlad, coming off a loss to Fury, and thus be AJ’s best win?
            He’d be every heavyweights best win

            maybe besides Fury over Klitschko

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              #46
              Originally posted by Nash out

              Wlad fought in two different styles, sometimes he'd be explosive, others he'd bore to a points win. Wlad impressed me more vs Joshua, than he did against Tony Bellew's *****, David Haye. Live and learn, boy. Stick with it, you'll pick it up eventually. Nash out - Boxingscene Hall of Famer.
              You said wlad was in his prime against Joshua and Fury that's absolute dog **** how can you justify these comments

              wlad impresses more against Joshua because he had a static target...wlad had much more ability timing speed and footspeed against haye he just had an easier target with Joshua so he looked more impressive if you can't see that you seriously need to study
              if the wlad that fought haye fought Joshua he'd have 100 percent knocked out Joshua because Joshua would get desperate but wlad would have the footspeed and timing to take a step back and flatten him
              Last edited by Stuntman Mike; 07-23-2021, 05:52 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                You said wlad was in his prime against Joshua and Fury that's absolute dog **** how can you justify these comments

                wlad impresses more against Joshua because he had a static target...wlad had much more ability timing speed and footspeed against haye he just had an easier target with Joshua so he looked more impressive if you can't see that you seriously need to study more
                Wlad impressed vs Haye because Haye is garbage. Nash is a very well-respected member of boxingscene, people appreciate his insight and fight predictions. In time, you as well will learn to love Nash. He is a boxing historian and knows his stuff. Nash out.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Nash out

                  Wlad fought in two different styles, sometimes he'd be explosive, others he'd bore to a points win. Wlad impressed me more vs Joshua, than he did against Tony Bellew's *****, David Haye. Live and learn, boy. Stick with it, you'll pick it up eventually. Nash out - Boxingscene Hall of Famer.
                  You'll say anything to make Joshua look better ..credit where credits due if Joshua beats usyk that's a good win .

                  However the win over a shot wlad is mediocre and was already beaten and showed huge signs of decline prior to his first loss...you just need to accept that and Joshua can still make something of himself even with that big fat loss he took from taco vender ruiz

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Stuntman Mike

                    You'll say anything to make Joshua look better ..credit where credits due if Joshua beats usyk that's a good win .

                    However the win over a shot wlad is mediocre and was already beaten and showed huge signs of decline prior to his first loss...you just need to accept that and Joshua can still make something of himself even with that big fat loss he took from taco vender ruiz
                    Joshua has two beatings from Tyson Fury to look forward to. Taco Vendor Ruiz is a tough competitor, a great eater, and a helluva fighter. He is worthy of respect. Nash out.

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                      #50
                      No it wouldnt be. Usyk has been underwhelming as a Heavyweight. Wilders win over Ortiz is better.

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