Usyk Would Be Wilders Best Win

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Wilder would be Usyk's best win by a mile.

What has Usyk actually done?

Went life and death with Breidis and arguably lost, beat up a weight drained Hunter who isn't any good anyway, and fought a stiff robot in Gassiev who completely bottled it. He was getting outboxed by Tony Bellew for a time, and was probably losing that fight til Bellew gassed out.

For a while i thought that Usyk might just school Joshua, but after studying the fight, i've changed my mind.

Joshua by KO.

Usyk has only fought Chisora so the opening statement doesn’t even make sense or warrant a discussion about Usyk having Wilder on his resume , Wilder would be anyone’s best win outside AJ and Fury so I don’t even know what your proving there ? Ha

Chisora is actually a harder style for Usyk then Wilder , Wilder would need to land solid and hope Usyk goes down so it’s not even a give me fight I think Usyk would win as many others do .

You wouldn’t in all likelihood give much credit to Usyk regardless with the fight signed now because your game is to take away from AJ opponents youve being doing it all along because you have to being Furys number one fan on here .

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Usyk has only fought Chisora so the opening statement doesn’t even make sense or warrant a discussion about Usyk having Wilder on his resume , Wilder would be anyone’s best win outside AJ and Fury so I don’t even know what your proving there ? Ha

Chisora is actually a harder style for Usyk then Wilder , Wilder would need to land solid and hope Usyk goes down so it’s not even a give me fight I think Usyk would win as many others do .

You wouldn’t in all likelihood give much credit to Usyk regardless with the fight signed now because your game is to take away from AJ opponents youve being doing it all along because you have to being Furys number one fan on here .

Usyk hasn't only fought Chisora, if that was the case, he wouldn't be the mandatory so you're talking s*** as usual Redumber.

I don't give a s*** about AJs opponents either, he can fight whoever he wants to, I respect AJs body of work and I'm not mad if someone wants to rank him #1, that's their opinion.

I personally think Fury comfortably beats Joshua and Usyk, but unless Fury gets in the ring with these guys, then it's fair enough that people might rank Joshua higher.

Yes I'm a Fury fan, however I'm frustrated with him, he's easily the most gifted HW on the planet, but atm he's all talk and no action.

Fury needs to retire Wilder in October and then move to unify, if he fails to do that, he's probably gonna lose a big fan.

[MONGOOSE66]

Let’s re examine this .since many don’t think Usyk isn’t a real fight and cherry pick .

He’s a gold medalist first off which does matter based on his career so far .

He has wins over multiple heavyweights already like Joyce and has ruled the WSOB as well which requires a lot of talent in that set up of tournament like fights of 5 minute rounds .


It doesn’t matter if he’s struggled at heavyweight so far which is also a myth he out classed every one and nearly knocked Chisora out despite dirty illegal tactics being used otherwise it’s a boring fight kind of like a bull charging a matador.


Wilders best win is Ortiz another southpaw who’s best win was 6 yrs ago against Jennings , his struggles with Hammer and fighting safe fights like Kauffman where he also struggled a bit is telling .


But Wilder didn’t even fight the best version of Ortiz he was years past it and barely survived by luck a bell rang other then Wilders head , Ortiz wasn’t even medically cleared legally to fight on the night in the first Wilder fight but they went around it anyway.

Wilder hasn’t fought a determined and prepared rough style like Chisora yet besides Stiverne who was at his best in 2015 which ended in a UD . Last time I checked Stiverne no Chisora ever or remote having close fights with .Whyte , Parker or Pulev .


Usyk is a very skilled and determined fighter with great ring IQ able to adjust the longer the fight goes , he has no health issues and great stamina these are all the things he’s better at then Ortiz .

The forum should think before they post bec essentially you are saying Wilder has not fought one single credible opponent and actually won .if Usyk is a no hoper which some Wilder fans have said to me .

LoL…………………..

[BoxOfficer]

Usyk beats Wilder, all day. All day! Wide UD. Or late TKO.

Usyk vs AJ is 55-45 in favour of Usyk IMHO.

[billeau2]

Silly Billy here we go again with the lying . You know Wlad had problems leading up to Fury while against AJ had 3 training camps and his own brother to spar in a must win fight unlike taking Fury somewhat lightly,so go ahead look foolish and say that’s an excuse ?

And what excuses are you talking about ? Are you at Marchegianos house ,I swear you are starting to sound more like him which is essentially not much logic involved. Smh I literally didn’t give any examples of excuses in fact I did the opposite and gave more props to AJs win over Wlad for obvious reasons besides it was his 19th fight at least if you tell the truth on here something you struggle with , a lot . Ha

You can excuse away any victory... It is ignorant to make excuses like that, somethng casual fans do perpetually. You really can expect nothing but a laugh when you refer to anyone acting "foolishly" my friend... Keep that in mind ok? Marchiagiano is a patented inventor, someone who has burned midnight oil documenting the sport of boxing from the ancient Greeks, what have you done? Bring the donuts to lawyers? Went on vacation... You had me rolling with that one, sure you did! More like Shoulder Roll vacationed that a s s!

You keep pushing limits my dear Redumber. Lets not forget why you "went on vacation" lol... you shouldn't push things, its not inyour best interests. You obviously don't get that... don't make me have to explain... You need to keep lurking in the shadows fora while longer ha!

[The Big Dunn]

Klitschko retired because he lost and then months into it decided against a rematch but not liking his chances he still wanted Fury though but he left to , however had he defeated AJ he fights Wilder if no rematch was attached and knocks him out then you guys would have to sell something else . Ha

The truth you guys won’t admit to is AJ defeated a very prepared Wlad , now you can lie as you guys usually do and say he hadn’t fought in nearly 2 years which isn’t the case but besides that he had 3 training camps and looked great . If your contesting Usyk is better than Klitschko that’s fine but your wrong as usual as well .

See why you did here? You keep saying wlad was prepared. I never posted or suggested he wasn’t.

I am arguing at 41, coming off a loss, having not fought in almost 2 years, that the wlad AJ beat is not a better win then Beating Usyk who would be prime, undefeated, and a consensus top 5 p4p boxer in the sport.

What do you mean a lie? He lost to fury in Nov 2015 and lost to Fury for n April 2017. He’s 41, how great does 41 yr old boxer look?

Clearly you know this would be AJ’s best win as well. I get you wanna crap on wilder, fine. But AJ had a loss to Ruiz by ko so pipe down about how f-cking great he is.

[Shadoww702]

Usyk beats everyone Wilder has ever fought apart from Fury.

Usky beats everyone Fury has ever fought apart from Klitschko

Shows just how much total garbage Fury and Wilder have been fighting. Fortunately most people are now realising these 2 bum-killers are a stain on boxing.

IDK about Ortiz? Usykk looks like sht at HW.

[Shadoww702]

Usyk beats Wilder, all day. All day! Wide UD. Or late TKO.

Usyk vs AJ is 55-45 in favour of Usyk IMHO.

They ever fight I would put $$$$ on Wilder.

[Pac=Duran]

Let’s re examine this .since many don’t think Usyk isn’t a real fight and cherry pick .

He’s a gold medalist first off which does matter based on his career so far .

He has wins over multiple heavyweights already like Joyce and has ruled the WSOB as well which requires a lot of talent in that set up of tournament like fights of 5 minute rounds .


It doesn’t matter if he’s struggled at heavyweight so far which is also a myth he out classed every one and nearly knocked Chisora out despite dirty illegal tactics being used otherwise it’s a boring fight kind of like a bull charging a matador.


Wilders best win is Ortiz another southpaw who’s best win was 6 yrs ago against Jennings , his struggles with Hammer and fighting safe fights like Kauffman where he also struggled a bit is telling .


But Wilder didn’t even fight the best version of Ortiz he was years past it and barely survived by luck a bell rang other then Wilders head , Ortiz wasn’t even medically cleared legally to fight on the night in the first Wilder fight but they went around it anyway.

Wilder hasn’t fought a determined and prepared rough style like Chisora yet besides Stiverne who was at his best in 2015 which ended in a UD . Last time I checked Stiverne no Chisora ever or remote having close fights with .Whyte , Parker or Pulev .


Usyk is a very skilled and determined fighter with great ring IQ able to adjust the longer the fight goes , he has no health issues and great stamina these are all the things he’s better at then Ortiz .

The forum should think before they post bec essentially you are saying Wilder has not fought one single credible opponent and actually won .if Usyk is a no hoper which some Wilder fans have said to me .

Otto Wallin woukd be Wilders best win let that sjnk in

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Otto Wallin woukd be Wilders best win let that sjnk in

I did that one already way back when . I was ahead of the curve as usual and it wasn’t very popular . Ha

This thread is for the crazies telling me Usyk is an easy win for everyone apparently as if AJ can do so can others , welcome to everyday .