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  • KingGilgamesh
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    #61
    Originally posted by REDEEMER

    Klitschko would easily have handled Usyk and still can if he’s in shape , again your proving my point really . Your trying to sell a loss to the worst heavy fight of all tine possibly as evidence Usyk must be a better win now ? No one buys that at least no AJ fan , you guys know it was a well prepared Klitschko AJ had to face , Usyk could be his second best win depending if you think he’s better then when he fought Povetkin or is that not sufficient bc Whyte beat Povetkin after AJ had pretty much effectively ended him pretty much and still defeated Whyte the first time ?
    Didn't Wlad fair terribly against Usyk in sparring?

    You're such a ****** ****. Seriously. You should of ****ed off permanently when you embarrassed yourself during the Fury shenanigans. You're back now spouting your bull****.

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      #62
      Originally posted by REDEEMER

      No ones bragging about anything you guys just don’t like facts .

      Wlad will most likely come back if he wants to beat Foreman’s record and if he did he would replace Wilder as a top 3 guy if he doesn’t leave which I’m guessing he will soon ,I’d bank anything on that . The thing is Wilder would never fight Wlad he doesn’t fight capable boxer punchers . However AJ is going to be the road block not Fury or Wilder who are annoying . At this point only their hard core fans support what they are doing because they don’t actually like boxing they like Fury or Wilder .
      You are propping up Vlad to try to prop up Joshua... You fail misrably. first off, Your argument is such that you ask people to believe something not true: That Vlad was somehow a better version of himself against Joshua than Fury. BS...you fail to prove it and it makes you look silly. Then you try to take a shiat on Wilder by demeaning Ortiz who showed plenty of skills against Wilder... Try something different and watch a fight like that one for a change... Then you predicate everything, on one event... That Joshua has an easy time of beating Usyk.

      Funny how you are always willing to risk everything on your ****** predictions... then they go wrong, you run away for a while and repeat the same BS...Hoping that this time things turn out foryou.

      Well... your making another big mistake. Usyk is really making adjustments for this fight, he is doing what he should be...Bulking up a bit so he can impose himself onJoshua when Joshua tires a bit. I think Usyk wins this. I certainly don't think Joshua will have an easy time fighting Usyk. I think this is a good fight. And once again your running your mouth and just praying things turn our right isn't that right dummy? Lol.Ha! And no not betting you, you have no credability...

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #63
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Given Usyk’s age and p4p status, wouldn’t it be a better win than 41 yr old wlad, coming off a loss to Fury, and thus be AJ’s best win?
        Definitely AJ’s best win. It’s the first good fighter he’s actually fought in their prime.

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          #64
          Originally posted by KingGilgamesh

          Didn't Wlad fair terribly against Usyk in sparring?

          You're such a ****** ****. Seriously. You should of ****ed off permanently when you embarrassed yourself during the Fury shenanigans. You're back now spouting your bull****.
          I so wish other posters would remind this idiot about his "past" predictions... His strategy is to make 10 predictions, and leave each time he is wrong... And if he hits (ever) he will tell us how "right" he is. The dummy claims he went on vacation this last time he went running lol.

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          • -Kev-
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            #65
            Originally posted by Marchegiano

            I'm confused how any of this supports the idea Wlad is a better win for Joshua than the prime undefeated former undisputed CW champion.

            He was ready for a loss when Tyson beat him, took two years off, and well passed his prime. It's not a good a win as you want to believe and not amount of trashing Wilder will change that.
            AJ's win over Wladimir Klitschko is better than beating Usyk.

            Usyk, #9 at HW with no merit being there other than he was the best CW. Looked awful vs Chisora.

            Who would be a better win for Errol Spence: An old Manny Pacquiao at 147 or prime Josh Taylor at 147? Taylor is the undisputed 140 champion. He can make his presence at 147 known by beating a couple of guys like Adrian Granados and Maurice Hooker. Maybe KO Hooker and UD Granados? Then he'd be a better win for Spence than Pacquiao.

            Nope, Pacquiao would still be a better win.

            The history books remember Pacquiao's run at 147. They remember Wlad's run at Heavyweight.

            Where is Usyk's run at HW? What did Usyk do at HW to merit being the best win on AJ's resume? The guy could not even prove how great fans think he is vs Chisora. He has not even shown to be as good as David Haye at HW. If Usyk loses to AJ, what will he do next at 35 years old? What qualities has he shown to make fans think he is going to have some legendary run at HW?

            Could the current Usyk even beat the Wladimir Klitschko that AJ beat? Or would it be another case of big tall Wlad making the smaller, shorter guy eat jabs and right hands until the guy succumbs?

            I just do not see what is fans obsession with Usyk at HW.

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            • DaNeutral.
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              #66
              So who would be a better win for Wilder than Usyk?
              Last edited by DaNeutral.; 07-26-2021, 05:46 PM.

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                #67
                Originally posted by REDEEMER

                I didn’t even mention I don’t even favor Wilder over Usyk where I think AJ will win comfortably against him .
                Gotta disagree. Won't be a comfortable win at all I reckon. In fact, I favour Usyk. His boxing is underrated, he outboxes AJ to a win and possibly a KO if he pushes for one. People forget that AJ only outboxed Ruiz in the rematch because Ruiz was fat and practically a sitting target, Usyk is ten times the boxer Ruiz is. Power means **** all against opponents like Usyk. I genuinely believe Usyk will outclass and not only that, he'll embarrass him big time.

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                  #68
                  Usyk has accomplished nothing impressive at heavyweight. This isn't cruiserweight or the amateurs.

                  What a dumb post.

                  But consider the source, this guy still insists that Fury vs Joshua is next.

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                  • REDEEMER
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                    Usyk has accomplished nothing impressive at heavyweight. This isn't cruiserweight or the amateurs.

                    What a dumb post.

                    But consider the source, this guy still insists that Fury vs Joshua is next.


                    The difference is I know how good a fighter Usyk was/ is , guys like you with the above detractions proves you don’t know good boxing when it’s right in your face . You will spend a lot of time though telling posters how Ortiz is scaring everyone .
                    Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-04-2021, 09:59 PM.

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                    • REDEEMER
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by iamboxing

                      Gotta disagree. Won't be a comfortable win at all I reckon. In fact, I favour Usyk. His boxing is underrated, he outboxes AJ to a win and possibly a KO if he pushes for one. People forget that AJ only outboxed Ruiz in the rematch because Ruiz was fat and practically a sitting target, Usyk is ten times the boxer Ruiz is. Power means **** all against opponents like Usyk. I genuinely believe Usyk will outclass and not only that, he'll embarrass him big time.
                      He won but embarrassed didn’t really happen ,I’d still have A.J in the rematch. Usyk looked like he was mugged after the fight but I had it as the last judge did 115/113 , Usyk is lucky he can take a great shot . A.J out boxed Ruiz because he had a great training camp and didn’t fight his fight he fought his and will likely do the same against Usyk .

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