Usyk Would Be Wilders Best Win

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  • Pac=Duran
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    #71
    Ofc. Parker Whyte and Povetking would too


    get this: Chisora could be Wilders best win lol would Ortiz bear Chisora? I dunno

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      #72
      Originally posted by Pac=Duran
      Ofc. Parker Whyte and Povetking would too


      get this: Chisora could be Wilders best win lol would Ortiz bear Chisora? I dunno
      I don’t know Chisora with McGirt looks good and could grind Ortiz down possibly but Ortiz is a sizeable guy with a nice jab but then is he going to be used to fighting grueling fights after such a long inactivity ? Not sure about Parker tbh .

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        #73
        Originally posted by REDEEMER



        The difference is I know how good a fighter Usyk was/ is , guys like you with the above detractions proves you don’t know good boxing when it’s right in your face . You will spend a lot of time though telling posters how Ortiz is scaring everyone .
        Usyk hadn't looked good against Witherspoon or Chisora.

        It took milquetoast AJ to make him look like a million dollars at heavweight.

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          #74
          Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

          Usyk hadn't looked good against Witherspoon or Chisora.I
          Fury also hadn`t looked good fighting Pianeta and Seferi.


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            #75
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            Usyk hadn't looked good against Witherspoon or Chisora.

            It took milquetoast AJ to make him look like a million dollars at heavweight.
            Had AJ won you’d still not understand why the thread stands . You’d be giving Wilder credit for the win anyway .

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              #76
              Originally posted by REDEEMER
              Let’s re examine this .since many don’t think Usyk isn’t a real fight and cherry pick .

              He’s a gold medalist first off which does matter based on his career so far .

              He has wins over multiple heavyweights already like Joyce and has ruled the WSOB as well which requires a lot of talent in that set up of tournament like fights of 5 minute rounds .


              It doesn’t matter if he’s struggled at heavyweight so far which is also a myth he out classed every one and nearly knocked Chisora out despite dirty illegal tactics being used otherwise it’s a boring fight kind of like a bull charging a matador.


              Wilders best win is Ortiz another southpaw who’s best win was 6 yrs ago against Jennings , his struggles with Hammer and fighting safe fights like Kauffman where he also struggled a bit is telling .


              But Wilder didn’t even fight the best version of Ortiz he was years past it and barely survived by luck a bell rang other then Wilders head , Ortiz wasn’t even medically cleared legally to fight on the night in the first Wilder fight but they went around it anyway.

              Wilder hasn’t fought a determined and prepared rough style like Chisora yet besides Stiverne who was at his best in 2015 which ended in a UD . Last time I checked Stiverne no Chisora ever or remote having close fights with .Whyte , Parker or Pulev .


              Usyk is a very skilled and determined fighter with great ring IQ able to adjust the longer the fight goes , he has no health issues and great stamina these are all the things he’s better at then Ortiz .

              The forum should think before they post bec essentially you are saying Wilder has not fought one single credible opponent and actually won .if Usyk is a no hoper which some Wilder fans have said to me .
              - -English can't be your native language. U native Esperanto speaker?

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                #77
                Usyk would be almost anyone's best win at this point

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Scopedog
                  Usyk would be almost anyone's best win at this point
                  Defeating Klitschko in 19 fights for me is the better win no matter what vs a Usyk one . Once or if A.J defeats Usyk he will be another Ruiz on here with the forum . They just can’t be honest on here when it comes to A.J that’s just a fact . Many of his wins could be arguably Wilders best win ,but I made the thread because of the very fight itself thinking A.J would get the win before the excuses came flying he beat up a Cruiserweight but the loss proves my point even more because you’ll see an entire 360 on here if we get a different outcome.

                  If someone defeats A.J they are the number 1 or 2 heavyweight however if he defeats them they are overatted hype jobs , Ruiz 2 incoming .
                  Last edited by REDEEMER; 10-05-2021, 04:24 AM.

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                  • Noelanthony
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER

                    I didn’t even mention I don’t even favor Wilder over Usyk where I think AJ will win comfortably against him .

                    Yet once again it’s another easy fight fir AJ just because he can possibly make it look easy .

                    If Wilder or Fury were fighting him , Usyk would be hailed as an exceptional fighter for now he’s a just a blown up CW . Ha
                    I said a 2 years ago Usyk would beat Wilder and i was laughed off the forum. I even thought Usyk would give AJ fits if they were to fight but watching Usyk against the likes of Bellew and Chisora i didnt see him so much as a threat as i originally thought. I am a AJ fan but he beats AJ again for me unless AJ sticks it on him from the beginning but i have a feeling Usyk will stay out of harms way and take it to josh in the later rounds where he gases. I'M worried about AJ mental state because you have a guy in Usyk with better stamina than josh, better movement, better ring IQ, better head movement and a chin that can take a few of Josh's right hands if he at all lands them. Usyk is a horrible style for AJ and both Tyson and Wilder are easier fights in terms of style. FURY can move but he is not as busy as Usyk and you can find that big gut

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #80
                      Come on now Luis ortiz is not good as best win. Whyte, joyce, dubois, parker would be wilder best win

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