Highest ATG Ranking Achievable in Modern Boxing

[Richie_R]

Everyone will call pac the GOAT when he beat spence but of course here in nsb some people would think that he isn't yet the GOAT.

He is already the GOAT. A Spence victory would just be icing on the cake

[Spray_resistant]

I have been over this and don't have the energy or interest in going back and forth like I had in the past about it but unless you're like 90 years old you have no business compiling an accurate ATG list. You'd have had to watch an insane amount of fights in the context in the time they fought.

[Shadoww702]

The top 5 are what I call untouchables

SRR Greb Armstrong Langford Pep Benny Leonard

Homie I'm comfortable!!! You think I want to go 12 with a dude that needs to feed his family and has no other options???

[IronDanHamza]

The top 5 are what I call untouchables

SRR Greb Armstrong Langford Pep Benny Leonard

Pep’s not top 5 at all.

The others you listed are hard to overtake with the strong resumes they have.

Pep? No. His resume is not that strong.

Ezzard Charles for example has a way stronger resume.

[sargo]

Finding excuses this early not to proclaim Pacquiao as GOAT. Well the likes of JCC Sr. who himself is a great already acknowledged Pacquiao as GOAT.

[BodyBagz]

So how high is the sky with modern boxing. Top 20?

simply put modern guys don’t have the schedule to beat up 6 elites every month

black and white era fighters had this opportunity

So, you think there were 1000's of elite guys during the B&W era ?

Put these modern guys back when bartenders were licensed boxers and they can also fight once a week.

[Citizen Koba]

So how high is the sky with modern boxing. Top 20?

simply put modern guys don’t have the schedule to beat up 6 elites every month

black and white era fighters had this opportunity

becoming top 10 seems out of reach for modern day.

You read about the feats of top 10 guys. They’re mythical tales

no modern guy is catching up with SRR Greb and Armstrong

I think you can only compare fighters with reference to how they did against their contemporaries and in the context of the norms of the era. If you're head and shoulders above the other fighters of your time then I don't see any reason why future historians wouldn't look back and rank you amongst the greatest.. it's just in boxing perhaps more than any other sport we've a tendency to fetishise the past


Not sure there was every a time when folk beat up '6 elites every month' though because frankly for much of the black and white era - especially during the great depression period - the sport was awash with guys who were virtually fighting for their dinner, and any dude who fancied he could scrap a bit would lace up for a few $$$s. Mostly talking about part-timers who used the sport to suppliment their income from the docks or whatever. The few guys who were actually good enough to make it a full time career could beat up 3 of these sorts of guys a week and make a real name for themselves, but when they stepped up to other guys of their level they would win some, lose some. The post war era was similar I think - though I'm not really a historian - with thousands of demobbed servicemen happy to throw down for a bit of extra cash.

In short the legends of the past may have fought a lot but they surely weren't fighting quality opposition for the bulk of the time. And besides, there really is no way of comparing, so it just makes sense to broadly assume the elite fighters of today should be held in a similar esteem to the top fighters of the past, or at least will be in another 50 or 100 years when boxing afficianados can look back with more objectivity

[Earl-Hickey]

So, you think there were 1000's of elite guys during the B&W era ?

Put these modern guys back when bartenders were licensed boxers and they can also fight once a week.

Back in the old days a post workout meal consisted of beef, roast potato's and gravy, washed down with a pint of dark ale.

Seriously, they were eating that and working 60 hours a week installing engines in farm equipment, that was your top 10!

[BodyBagz]

Back in the old days a post workout meal consisted of beef, roast potato's and gravy, washed down with a pint of dark ale.

Seriously, they were eating that and working 60 hours a week installing engines in farm equipment, that was your top 10!

And fought like it (bumblin n stumblin).

[LeOoze]

The top 5 are what I call untouchables

SRR Greb Armstrong Langford Pep Benny Leonard

teach me on benny respectfully. top 5 OAT???