Floyd's 5 best wins

[The Big Dunn]

So you don't believe Shane's version of the incident in 99?

I don’t understand why he didn’t just say this to Merchant when asked about fighting Floyd.

what is the source for your interview?

edit- why didn’t merchant bring this up when he asked him? Merchant is a notorious Floyd critic. Don’t you think if he knew Floyd had ducked Shane he’d have brought it up?

[GhostofDempsey]

This story was told after the toothache video, correct?

So you tell me, since you saw the video and saw how he reacted when Merchant asked him-
why not just say this when Merchant asked him?

come on ghost if this was anyone else you’d not believe them.

How many fighters are completely coherent after a fight with a mic in their face and off the cuff questions? If you want to see some ducking and hostility, just watch Merchant’s interview with Floyd post Ortiz fight.

Now, why wouldn’t Floyd fight Mosley at 135?

[The Big Dunn]

Why do these Floyd Boys seem to believe that beating Cotto after Margarito and Manny ravaged him, beating Shane after getting beat bad by Forrest and Winky 2x, and being in tough fights with Oscar, Cotto, and Vargas 2x, and beating Manny after being ko'd bad by Marquez, is all time great s**t.

Ok then how is Thurman a big win when he had 1 fight in 2 years, a MD over josesito lopez?

[mrpain81]

It seems like only journalists mention Genaro Hernandez as one of Mayweather’s top 3 wins. Even Floyd’s biggest critic journalists mention Hernandez as top 5.

Fans seldom mention the 130lb Lineal/WBC champion Genaro Hernandez. Hernandez was a fair 3-2 favorite. You can find all kinds of publications predicting a Hernandez win. It was a good matchup going in. To put it into perspective, Genaro Hernandez was ranked #1 at 130 by The Ring, was the Lineal champion, and Floyd was a lower tier SFW at the time.

But I guess hindsight bias prevails, like most of Mayweather’s top wins.

Genaro opened as favorite but the odds quickly shifted to Mayweather.

Mayweather was favorite going into the fight.

[The Big Dunn]

How many fighters are completely coherent after a fight with a mic in their face and off the cuff questions? If you want to see some ducking and hostility, just watch Merchant’s interview with Floyd post Ortiz fight.

Now, why wouldn’t Floyd fight Mosley at 135?

Convenient excuse. He lied ghost. It’s pretty obvious. Of course it’s different in a controlled media interview.

where is that interview from?

Floyd was at 130 and was low reward, high risk. So Shane fought the safer willie wise fight to not jeopardize the odh payday coming.

[Boxing-1013]

It seems like only journalists mention Genaro Hernandez as one of Mayweather’s top 3 wins. Even Floyd’s biggest critic journalists mention Hernandez as top 5.

Fans seldom mention the 130lb Lineal/WBC champion Genaro Hernandez. Hernandez was a fair 3-2 favorite. You can find all kinds of publications predicting a Hernandez win. It was a good matchup going in. To put it into perspective, Genaro Hernandez was ranked #1 at 130 by The Ring, was the Lineal champion, and Floyd was a lower tier SFW at the time.

But I guess hindsight bias prevails, like most of Mayweather’s top wins.

I think it's hard to hate too much on Floyd's work at the lower weights. Once he got super A-side status though, I think things changed and the wins weren't always what they seemed.

[djtmal]

what excuses. Floyd won these fights. It’s the losers that are making excuses for why the guys lost- shoulder, age, weight etc etc.

The “ not in their prime” thing is just something fans of losers came up with because it’s a subjective measure rooted in personal beliefs, not facts.

Guys like you never use objective measures to assess this m.

Example- you saying the manny fight doesn’t count. You subjectively decided it doesn’t because he wasn’t prime. Yet if you based it on objective criteria -there is no way possible a win over the #2 p4p fighter and the 2nd ranked ww other than Floyd isn’t a great win.

you did the same thing with Thurman. You subjectively call it a great win. Objectively- he wasn’t a top p4p guy, had 1 fight In 2 years, a MD win over a gatekeeper, yet you focus on him being “prime” based solely on his age.

with Floyd, you use previous fights and time off to subjectively decide if his opponents were “shot” or fresh. Yet with Thurman no mention of his previous opposition or time off.

just use the same objective measures every time and then we can have a fair discussion.

The Manny that fought Floyd was better than the Thurman that manny beat even though Thurman was younger and presumably fresher. he just wasn’t better by any objective measure.

when you back a loser you Either give credit or make excuses. You and others choose excuse making.

Lmao.

Dude we not talking about Manny's best wins we talking about Floyd's.

Time and memorial we use who they beat and when they beat them as the measuring stick.

Until Floyd Boys came along....

What can be more simple than the parameters given.

Oh well.

Here you go. Everybody that was prime when Floyd beat them:

Hernandez
Alvarez
Hatton
Ortiz
Guerrero
Chop Chop Corley
Corrales
Marcos Madonna 2X
Zab Judah
Carlos Baldimir
Eh I will throw in Castillo 2X
Manfredy
Conor McGregor

We know whatever 5 you choose isn't putting him in the top 10 atg category, but now pick 5 and stfu.

[djtmal]

It seems like only journalists mention Genaro Hernandez as one of Mayweather’s top 3 wins. Even Floyd’s biggest critic journalists mention Hernandez as top 5.

Fans seldom mention the 130lb Lineal/WBC champion Genaro Hernandez. Hernandez was a fair 3-2 favorite. You can find all kinds of publications predicting a Hernandez win. It was a good matchup going in. To put it into perspective, Genaro Hernandez was ranked #1 at 130 by The Ring, was the Lineal champion, and Floyd was a lower tier SFW at the time.

But I guess hindsight bias prevails, like most of Mayweather’s top wins.

List I posted.

This isn't Floyd's excuses for not fighting the best fighters at their best. This is who are his top 5 wins:

Hatton
Corrales
Hernandez
Alvarez
#5 can be a pick em with Guerrero Ortiz Marcos Madonna or Carlos Baldimir I guess.

[Spoon23]

Lmao.

Dude we not talking about Manny's best wins we talking about Floyd's.

BIg Dunn is in disarray again.. Confused of the fight he is in.. Seeing multiple djtmal in the ring..

How many punches before he goes down.. Big Dunn, can't tell where he is.. Can't tell what the fight is all about..

Dazed and confused.. Dunn is done and ripe for a KO..

djtmal. It's time to finish him..

Fatality move is all that is left..

[djtmal]

BIg Dunn is in disarray again.. Confused of the fight he is in.. Seeing multiple djtmal in the ring..

How many punches before he goes down.. Big Dunn, can't tell where he is.. Can't tell what the fight is all about..

Dazed and confused.. Dunn is done and ripe for a KO..

djtmal. It's time to finish him..

Fatality move is all that is left..

I don't understand why its so hard for these guys to just accept the prime fighters Floyd beat. Its a pretty good list. Is it trumping Ali and the Sugar Rays, no, but its a decent list that could have been far better had he fought the best guys in their prime.