Floyd's 5 best wins

[The Big Dunn]

All I can do is evaluate what actually happened and what I saw/see. Who knows what would have happened had him and Manny fought 5 years prior. Or Mosley when Mosley wasn't 39. Or Canelo a bit older/not at that weight. Idk, if you start going down that path with every fighter, where does it end?

I’m not asking you to do it to every fighter, just the guy you asked about.

In other discussions, if I’m not mistaken, you and other posters have opined fighters avoid or duck because they’d lose. You then use that as part of how you evaluate that boxer.

Why would that not apply in this situation?

I don’t think what I’m asking is unreasonable.

[Boxing-1013]

I’m not asking you to do it to every fighter, just the guy you asked about.

In other discussions, if I’m not mistaken, you and other posters have opined fighters avoid or duck because they’d lose. You then use that as part of how you evaluate that boxer.

Why would that not apply in this situation?

I don’t think what I’m asking is unreasonable.

Because I don't have any direct knowledge that any of those guys ducked Floyd. The only one I really have an opinion on is Manny, and yeah I think Floyd was the main reason why that fight didn't happen way prior to that.

[The Big Dunn]

Because I don't have any direct knowledge that any of those guys ducked Floyd. The only one I really have an opinion on is Manny, and yeah I think Floyd was the main reason why that fight didn't happen way prior to that.

You don’t have direct knowledge? This site has posted the video of Shane refusing to fight over the toothache numerous times. How do you not know that?

you also know odh chose to fight whomever he wanted so he fought Floyd on his timetable.

You also are aware of manny refusing and the reasons why. Someone even posted it this thread.

[LeOoze]

Was he 30 vs ODLH and 35 vs Cotto? I think that's about right. And other than those 2 fights, I can't recall him fighting a guy bigger than him really. McGregor was probably the biggest guy he actually faced. Canelo obviously but when you put in a weight clause on the other guy it's hard to argue that you were the one who was disadvantaged on weight.

Castillo was way bigger than him in both fights, along with Corrales. Yeah the weight clause is lame, but I'd rather outweigh my opponent by 15 pounds than vice versa. Maidana and Ortiz were confirmed 165 pounds against Floyd. Don't quote me on this but I think Shane was 160 when he fought Floyd. Then you got guys like Baldomir, Gatti, Genaro, etc.

All I can do is evaluate what actually happened and what I saw/see. Who knows what would have happened had him and Manny fought 5 years prior. Or Mosley when Mosley wasn't 39. Or Canelo a bit older/not at that weight. Idk, if you start going down that path with every fighter, where does it end?

Then you can do that for literally every fighter that has ever existed lol...

like what would have happened if Duran fought Hearns if he wasn't coming off a loss from Hagler?
what if Frazier fought Ali before exile?
what if Holyfield/Lennox fought Tyson before he went to jail?

let's be real, all of the hypothetical questions I listed above aren't meaningless. They could have changed the outcome, but we can't know for the most part. We could do the same for Pac's resume, but I give him credit for a lot of his signature wins.

[djtmal]

You list it 3rd . Lmfao. You’re a clown.

Of course Manny counts. You’re such a f@g that you didn’t list Shane even though you made a thread opining Floyd had to fight Shane next, which he did. He wins and then you change up.

When manny was prime he turned down $40 mil. He also was scared of needles.

when they fought we saw exactly why he did both.

You are the clown for missing that I listed Alvarez altogether.

Manny, Shane, Cotto. Floyd beat past prime versions of all of those guys. To add insult to injury, Floyd in beating them hadn't done nothing we hadn't seen already.

You can make up excuses for how scared Floyd was to face those guys when they were in their primes, but the bottom line will be that he did not, and nobody is giving him a pass for it.

[LeOoze]

You are the clown for missing that I listed Alvarez altogether.

Manny, Shane, Cotto. Floyd beat past prime versions of all of those guys. To add insult to injury, Floyd in beating them hadn't done nothing we hadn't seen already.

you failed to mention that Floyd was past his prime when he fought all of them too. He was older than Manny and Cotto and he was calling out Shane since 99. Dimwit.

[tonysoprano]

May not be his greatest win but i enjoyed it when he beat the dog **** out of Arturo Gatti. That was some performance. I wished he showed a bit more of that mean streak in his later fights.

[The Big Dunn]

You are the clown for missing that I listed Alvarez altogether.

Manny, Shane, Cotto. Floyd beat past prime versions of all of those guys. To add insult to injury, Floyd in beating them hadn't done nothing we hadn't seen already.

You can’t fight guys in their prime when they have a toothache, are scared of needles, or will not take $40 mil.

[djtmal]

The only guys who say it doesn’t count are diehard manny fans still upset he beat Manny so easy.

Manny ducks Floyd twice in his prime over needle fear and not getting enough ppv and then you hold that against Floyd.

shane ducks him over a toothache you hold it against Floyd. Odh refuses to fight him you hold it against Floyd.

Your bias is ridiculous.

We not talking about who Floyd was scared to fight in their prime, we talking his best wins over fighters who were at their best, and that is prime.

Stop trying to shape the parameters so you Floyd Boys can squeeze in fighters who he waited to become shopworn.

[The Big Dunn]

We not talking about who Floyd was scared to fight in their prime, we talking his best wins over fighters who were at their best, and that is prime.

Stop trying to shape the parameters so you Floyd Boys can squeeze in fighters who he waited to become shopworn.

Floyd can’t fight guys in their prime when they have a toothache, are scared of needles, or will not take $40 mil.