Floyd's 5 best wins

[Boxing-1013]

Just because everyone's a **** doesn't make it a debate forum.

Well, it SHOULD be a debate forum, but you're correct, it doesn't really live up to its ideals.

[Boxing-1013]

Appreciate the response. Maybe I didn't make my point clear enough. If we are doing this in good faith, then if the timing of his fights lessens the wins, then shouldn't we factor in that guys waited to fight him?

Shane, Manny, and ODH all made tremendous money when they didn't fight Floyd. If they fight Floyd earlier and lose, do they make as much? Maybe, maybe not. Clearly that factored into their decision. I don't think that should be held against Floyd. In fact, it actually speaks to how talented he was-that top earners saw him as high risk, low reward. SO if you are unsure of how to grade the ODH win, ok. But please lets factor in ODH waited to fight him and discuss why.

On a different note this is kind of my point about Haney and Loma. It isn't that Haney is so great, its that his attributes could've made it very difficult for Loma. If Loma loses, the huge Teo payday goes out the window. SO Loma makes the smart business decision and drops the belt rather than fight Haney. Now people talk about Haney's lack of a resume-which is a fact-but how does the fact a guy dropped a bet rather than fight him go into the equation?

I can't comment on the ODLH and Mosley situations with Floyd. I think what I've gathered is that they waited Floyd out a bit, so I could see your point there. I'm not an expert on those situations.

Who is to say Floyd should have done anything in his career different anyway? He made a ton of money his way, and he could have taken tougher fights for less money, and for what? So 2% of the guys who hate him now, would respect him more?

I just also think he used his position as the super A-side very well in his Money May days. I guess reasonable people can differ on that stuff.

On Haney/Loma, I can't comment either. I could see that being a possibility. Loma seems like a non-ducker to me, with some of the matchups he has taken. I don't doubt that Bob would have wanted to make Teo-Loma though, before anything else. And Bob's fighters seem to do what they are told, or else.

[Kagami Taiga]

People really tried it with this thread. Name active fighters with better resumes than
1. Pacquiao
2. Canelo
3. Corrales
4. Castillo
5. Mosely/Hatton/Cotto

most of those people were p4p or thereabouts when Floyd fought them. All of them were champions.

[MONGOOSE66]

PAC
Canelo
Corrales
Castillo
Everyone else was OLD and past their prime.

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PAC, Canelo, Corrales, Marquez, and Tenshin.

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PAC
Canelo
Corrales
Castillo
Everyone else was OLD and past their prime.

Zab, Hatton, Ortiz, Guerrero, Marquez, and Maidana were old?

[MONGOOSE66]

Zab, Hatton, Ortiz, Guerrero, Marquez, and Maidana were old?

No, just not worth mentioning due to their lack of abilities, size, mental issues. Maidana is worth mentioning.

[The Big Dunn]

This isn't Floyd's excuses for not fighting the best fighters at their best. This is who are his top 5 wins:

Hatton
Corrales
Hernandez
Alvarez
#5 can be a pick em with Guerrero Ortiz Marcos Madonna or Carlos Baldimir I guess.

We know that don't really match with the TBE narrative.

Big Dunn always ready to change the narrative to suit Floyd favorably. His resume is what it is. He certainly fought bigger names but you can't use them because they were over the hill, and no amount of excuses is changing anything.

The bigger names avoided Floyd while they made money. I don’t expect you to be honest about it.

[Boxing-1013]

People really tried it with this thread. Name active fighters with better resumes than
1. Pacquiao
2. Canelo
3. Corrales
4. Castillo
5. Mosely/Hatton/Cotto

most of those people were p4p or thereabouts when Floyd fought them. All of them were champions.

Again, more spin. What you're positing is not what matters. What matters is what version and at what weight those fights were fought. We know this. Why we want to ignore it when it suits us is ******.

[#1PaperChamp]

In no order:

Canelo, Pac, Cotto, Mosley, Corrales

Runner ups:

DLH, Hatton, Genaro Hernandez, JMM, JLC2