Why do people (like Mike Coppinger) fall into the Teofimo 'Undisputed' label?

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  • ShoulderRoll
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    #41
    Originally posted by OnePunch
    people can split hairs and carry on with semantics about whether someone is undisputed, lineal, unified, or whatever. Bottom line is that beating Loma made Lopez "the man" at 135. He doesnt have to beat Haney to prove it. Haney on the other hand, DOES have to beat Lopez to become "the man" at 135.

    And people saying that Loma dumped the belt to avoid a possible Haney mando, well thats just silly. He could just as easily have dumped the belt AFTER the Lopez fight, had he won.
    Why did he dump the belt at all?

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      #42
      Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

      But what if the champion drops the belt to avoid having to fight another boxer? What are we to make of that?
      Well it’s suppose to be number 1 vs number 2 for the title. Haney was number 1 but the bum he beat for the title was not number 2 and to be honest prolly not in thr top 10.

      Then to be made full status champ via email. That’s a true joke of a title.

      These sanctioning bodies are a joke but it’s up to the fighters to have some integrity on who they fighting for that title.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Ray*

        I dont give a toss. I go with facts, fact is Haney has the real belt. Thus to make undisputed both has to fight.
        And fact is his title was won via email and not in the ring.

        You can’t accept that garbage as that’s exactly what makes boxing shht when it comes to titles.

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          #44
          I mean if you don’t consider Teo undisputed then you can’t really consider anybody else undisputed in divisions in which there is a regular and super WBA champ. So Taylor wouldn’t be undisputed, and if Fury and Joshua fight they wouldn’t be undisputed either. Can’t really have it bother ways right

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            #45
            Originally posted by ShoulderRoll

            Why did he dump the belt at all?
            why is haney ducking loma now? send an offer. when loma was booked up it was hes ducking hes ducking hes ducking! now that loma is available...im not fighting loma. the important thing you seem to be missing is that haney does not want to fight loma. you keep focusing on the belt like thats preventing the fight from happening? its not. it never was. loma when he had the belt "send me a good offer and ill fight haney" nothing came. loma without the belt "im ready to fight haney send me an offer" i dont want to fight loma.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Ray*

              I dont give a toss. I go with facts, fact is Haney has the real belt. Thus to make undisputed both has to fight.
              Wanna have a good laugh and see how much of a joke Haneys title is. Go look up the fighter he beat to win his interim title, which was turned into full
              status after they fought, and see his ranking.

              That’s the guy you praise and call the real champion. Lol lo

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                #47
                Racist email elevated chump is a real champion over the guy that beat the real last champion?

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by daggum

                  why is haney ducking loma now? send an offer. when loma was booked up it was hes ducking hes ducking hes ducking! now that loma is available...im not fighting loma. the important thing you seem to be missing is that haney does not want to fight loma. you keep focusing on the belt like thats preventing the fight from happening? its not. it never was. loma when he had the belt "send me a good offer and ill fight haney" nothing came. loma without the belt "im ready to fight haney send me an offer" i dont want to fight loma.
                  Turnabout is fair play and payback is a b1tch.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by mxtali
                    I mean if you don’t consider Teo undisputed then you can’t really consider anybody else undisputed in divisions in which there is a regular and super WBA champ. So Taylor wouldn’t be undisputed, and if Fury and Joshua fight they wouldn’t be undisputed either. Can’t really have it bother ways right
                    It's not really the same. Loma dropped the WBC belt. He wasn't the champion anymore.

                    He took a designation that didn't require mandatories. That's not a championship belt. It wasn't even supposed to be transferable!

                    Teo should be mandatory. He's certainly the top guy in the division. But if undisputed requires the WBC Championship, then he doesn't have it.

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                    • Ray*
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by True-Boxing-Fan

                      Wanna have a good laugh and see how much of a joke Haneys title is. Go look up the fighter he beat to win his interim title, which was turned into full
                      status after they fought, and see his ranking.

                      That’s the guy you praise and call the real champion. Lol lo
                      Again I couldn’t care less, not a fan of Haney, but not going listen to BS. He has the last belt… end of

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