Why do people (like Mike Coppinger) fall into the Teofimo 'Undisputed' label?

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  • RENE JUNIOR
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    #11
    Originally posted by Skillz12

    I know a lot more than you noob.

    Teo is undisputed that’s a fact.

    But hey don’t worry I don’t consider Taylor undisputed since Barrios has the wba belt.
    HAHAHAHA! I am done with you fam

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    • El_Mero
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      #12
      Teo should be considered the undisputed. Not his fault the wbc created a new belt. He beat the man who had it.

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      • RENE JUNIOR
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        #13
        Originally posted by El_Mero
        Teo should be considered the undisputed. Not his fault the wbc created a new belt. He beat the man who had it.
        Hey I feel you, but I just base the question and post off of facts, he's not Undisputed, yet some people think he is. He has to fight Haney for real Undisputed label

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #14
          Hard to keep up with it to be honest.

          Lomachenko was the WBC Champion right? Then he got upgraded to franchise WBC, so surely he’s the WBC champion? Or am I missing something?

          Lopez beat Lomachenko so surely logically Lopez is the WBC Champion.

          I don’t consider anyone that gets “upgraded” to a Champion a Champion anyway so Haney definitely isn’t the WBC Champion in my eyes.

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          • Monzon99
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            #15
            american boxing media has an interest to exaggerate and embellish Lopez because he's about the only american star at the moment.

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            • RENE JUNIOR
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              #16
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Hard to keep up with it to be honest.

              Lomachenko was the WBC Champion right? Then he got upgraded to franchise WBC, so surely he’s the WBC champion? Or am I missing something?

              Lopez beat Lomachenko so surely logically Lopez is the WBC Champion.

              I don’t consider anyone that gets “upgraded” to a Champion a Champion anyway so Haney definitely isn’t the WBC Champion in my eyes.
              I understand, it really is hard to keep up. This is what happened, Loma had the WBC belt, but he petitioned the Franchise WBC belt, Franchise belt gives the feedom for a fighter to fight the mandatory or NOT. At that time, Haney was the mandatory to fight Loma, but Loma pulled the Franchise move on Haney so he wouldn't fight him, so the REAL WBC champ belt was given to Haney. So when Teo fought Loma, that green WBC was and is the Franchise belt, It's not the real championship belt. All this is thanks to Mauricio for the foolish Franchise belt. The Franchise belt is just a reward, NOT a champ belt. Mauricio did that to favor certain fighters and to benefit Mauricio monetarily.

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              • Ray*
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                #17
                Originally posted by RENE JUNIOR

                I'm saying bro, a lot of these 'fans' are just man fans who romantisize over their favorite fighters man wow, this era is weird bro.
                Very weird era, you don’t even need to be a Stan or bend the rules to know the simple things. We don’t need to over complicated things in boxing. It is already shitty enough already, without allowing all these other BS.

                Once you start licking a boxers ass then you lose your Principles, facts are to be undisputed you win all the FOUR major belts like Josh Taylor just did.

                It is that simple, NO regular, gold, interim, french fries etc BS belts…. none.

                So looking at the cold hard facts, Teofimo Lopez has 3 belts and is missing the email one that Haney holds. Go and get that belt and be the undisputed, instead of selling BS to dumb fans and media.

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                • famicommander
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                  #18
                  The WBC "promoted" Lomachenko to Franchise champion and then passed that designation to Lopez. It's like saying Josh Taylor isn't undisputed because he doesn't have the WBA Regular belt Barrios is carrying around.

                  Haney's belt is fake because he was given it as a result of another fighter in the same division being promoted to a higher status by the WBC. Teofimo Lopez is the top recognized champion by the WBC, Haney is secondary whether he likes it or not.

                  It's ****** of course. There should be no such thing as a Regular, Super, or Franchise title. But that's the sad reality we live in.

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                  • DaNeutral.
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                    #19
                    I would love to call him undisputed as he beat the man. But i like everybody else hated this Franchise BS belt when it came out and unlike some I’m standing by that opinion and refusing to now label it as a full world title cuz by raising its worth like some are doing it is playing exactly in to Morris Sillymans hands.

                    on top of that who wouldn’t want a Lopez v Haney fight.

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                    • RENE JUNIOR
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DaNeutral.
                      I would love to call him undisputed as he beat the man. But i like everybody else hated this Franchise BS belt when it came out and unlike some I’m standing by that opinion and refusing to now label it as a full world title cuz by raising its worth like some are doing it is playing exactly in to Morris Sillymans hands.

                      on top of that who wouldn’t want a Lopez v Haney fight.
                      Facts, that ****** Franchise is not even a championship belt.

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