Why do people (like Mike Coppinger) fall into the Teofimo 'Undisputed' label?

[ReggieKray]

The Franchise belt is higher than the diamond belt. Not recognizing Teo as Undisputed officially or unofficially (your choice really) is silly.

The Dimond belt is the new secondary belt and you don't need a secondary belt to be undisputed.

Also I think Teo is gonna give Haney a shot at all the belts soon to shut him up and everyone else who has issues with considering Teo undisputed. This will all get sorted by the end of the year or early next.

[Mammoth]

Teo is the best at the weight but has 3 of the 4 titles. It's not to insult him but you need all 4 belts or you're not undisputed. We can't bend the rules just because we like someone.

[Ray*]

Fact is, Teofimo is just as much the WBC champion as Haney. And in my opinion he has the bigger claim as he won his title in the ring vs Loma.

Who did Haney beat again to even be considered WBC champion before getting his secondary title turned into full status via email.

Teofimo’s claim at WBC champion status, which in turn makes him undisputed, is much stronger than Haney’s claim.

Nope, Haney has the WBC belt that Ali held. I couldn’t care less who he beat, whether it was emailed to him by the net or post. Am not going to get involved with BS politics and made up titles.

The day boxing fans do this the better for the sport of boxing.

[Marchegiano]

As I understand it the question is, is Teo undisputed based on whatever rules and guidelines the bodies have for that.

That said, what makes the majors majors is cross recognition. The bodies don't hide what belts they recognize from one another so if you're going for an official ruling I think it's right there in the open on their own ratings boards.

Obviously the WBC recognizes their own belts from Franchise down to regional titles. Of the others the IBF/WBO are simple enough and recognized. The WBA Super, Regular and Interim are recognized by the WBC but I see no recognition of the WBA Gold.

On the WBA they recognize the WBC/IBF/WBO and that's it outside of their own belts like Reg, Gold, Recess etc. There is no distinction for WBC Franchise, Interim, Silver or anything else and Haney is the representative of the WBC on the WBA ratings at LW.


On the IBF **** gets simple as, they have no interims and such their selves so it's just WBA/C/O titles and their own. No Golds-Regs and no Silvers-Franchises. There Haney represents the WBC

On the WBO the only distinctions they make outside of top belts is their own Super Champion distinction. This isn't a separate title like the WBA Super though. Outside of that it's WBA/C and IBF titles without any Reg/Franchise to Silver/Gold bull****.


So literally every body recognizes Haney as the WBC champion and Teo as the WBA/O-IBF Champion.

It is bull**** but if you mean by official nonsense I think it's pretty out in the open, dude is not undisputed.




That said, it probably behooves them to change their tune to anyone with one from each of the four is considered undisputed and then we'll post accolade him like we do Wlad and his WBO title run.

[ShoulderRoll]

Lomachenko dropped the WBC belt before the Teofimo Lopez fight. He could have kept it and still fought Teofimo, but his team didn't want to have Haney lying in wait afterwards as the mandatory.

Those are the facts of the matter.

[True-Boxing-Fan]

Nope, Haney has the WBC belt that Ali held. I couldn’t care less who he beat, whether it was emailed to him by the net or post. Am not going to get involved with BS politics and made up titles.

The day boxing fans do this the better for the sport of boxing.

The only made up title is the one Haney has. He never won his “title” from the champion.

So you don’t care who someone beats to become champion? So a boxer doesn’t need to beat the champion to become a champion? You got a weird thinking of how a champion should be crowned.

You are not into BS boxing politics? If that’s the case then you wouldn’t consider Haney a champion. BS boxing Politics got him his title via email.

[ShoulderRoll]

The only made up title is the one Haney has. He never won his “title” from the champion.

So you don’t care who someone beats to become champion? So a boxer doesn’t need to beat the champion to become a champion? You got a weird thinking of how a champion should be crowned.

You are not into BS boxing politics? If that’s the case then you wouldn’t consider Haney a champion. BS boxing Politics got him his title via email.

But what if the champion drops the belt to avoid having to fight another boxer? What are we to make of that?

[Ray*]

The only made up title is the one Haney has. He never won his “title” from the champion.

So you don’t care who someone beats to become champion? So a boxer doesn’t need to beat the champion to become a champion? You got a weird thinking of how a champion should be crowned.

You are not into BS boxing politics? If that’s the case then you wouldn’t consider Haney a champion. BS boxing Politics got him his title via email.

I dont give a toss. I go with facts, fact is Haney has the real belt. Thus to make undisputed both has to fight.

[MONGOOSE66]

Belts mean sheeit when your at the top. Teo beat the MAN. Lets see Haney fight Loma. Doubt it will happen.

[OnePunch]

people can split hairs and carry on with semantics about whether someone is undisputed, lineal, unified, or whatever. Bottom line is that beating Loma made Lopez "the man" at 135. He doesnt have to beat Haney to prove it. Haney on the other hand, DOES have to beat Lopez to become "the man" at 135.

And people saying that Loma dumped the belt to avoid a possible Haney mando, well thats just silly. He could just as easily have dumped the belt AFTER the Lopez fight, had he won.