Comments Thread For: Hearn: Team Fury Made Zero Attempt To Save The Joshua Fight!

[Oldskoolg]

lol what? Hearn put together the biggest pay day possible for both fury and AJ. It’s not a case of him being out hustled, arum and team fury just ****ed their own client. He held up his end of the bargain, they didn’t take care of business on their side and now their client will be earning less money. I don’t see how Hearn looks bad in this. He had one job to do and he did it.

Clearly you don’t know what the more underworld term of a “hustle” is.....

[786]

That was your point? The pandemic prevented that. Now they will have a Vegas audience, ppv, and promotion. The fight couldn’t happen in the pandemic and make the sort of money it can now. Let us not forget those two set the record for gate to a heavyweight title fight in vegas

Then why was Fury trying to fight Kabayel in December? He could’ve had the third wilder fight in December but tried to avoid it hence the arbitration. All of this could’ve been avoided if he fought wilder in December, then there’d be no roadblocks to the AJ fight.

[Zelda]

I think Warren cleared up a lot of things today.

1. Firstly, nothing between Fury and Joshua was signed for Aug 14. It was all verbal talk.
2. Secondly, the agreement reached between Warren, Arum, Hearn, Fury, and Joshua regarding splits, etc. explicitly included the Widler arbitration clause that Hearn signed. So, him claiming that he was lied to or misled by Bob is a lie. Sure thing Bob thought he would win or that the arbitrator would give some compensation, but that's Bob's opinion. The signed document states otherwise.
3. Thirdly, the fight was NOT going to be signed that day or the next. Several things needed to be ironed out including which British broadcaster will telecast and what would be the split.
4. Fourthly, Wilder did NOT ask for any step aside money. So, Eddie claiming that $20M is a wild exaggeration and misleading.
5. Finally, it was agreed upon that both parties will unanimously announce that fight. Eddie kept on giving interviews that the fight is one and will be signed tomorrow or next week when in reality many things remained to be sorted out. The fight could have been later than Eddie was telling everyone unless everything magically came together.

[Oldskoolg]

Then why was Fury trying to fight that guy in December? He could’ve had the third wilder fight in December but tried to avoid it hence the arbitration. All of this could’ve been avoided if he fought wilder in December, then there’d be no roadblocks to the AJ fight.

Fury couldn’t fight kabayel because of the contract he signed....and that would not have been anywhere near the size of a wilder fight which requires two different networks to work together or much larger promotion.
ad I said before, fury was legally bound to the contract he signed. There was never any way out of this. As Alex Holland said in Swamp Thing, “the only way out is through.”

[GucciGod]

Olafemi is racist? How’s that work exactly?

Well, if a white professional athlete and highly publicised in their own country, was to go on a protest tell everyone to stop giving money to any Black owned businesses, they’d be crucified in the media and in life in general.

if a white heavyweight champion of the world no forget it, if any other highly publicised sports figure were to send a direct message to an Obscure fellow athlete and directly tell them

“they’re a disgrace to the superior black race”

How do you think that would go down? Are you saying they wouldn’t be deemed a racist? I hope you really think before you answer this aswell oldskoolG.

because I’ve always respected you and you’re opinion, but I’m ready for you today sir. So the floor is yours.


*replace black with any race you like*

[Kezzer]

In the same interview he also confirmed the contract included a guarantee of a MINIMUM of $60m for each fighter would be from the fight.

how much do we think fury earns for the wilder fight?

[Kezzer]

I think Warren cleared up a lot of things today.

1. Firstly, nothing between Fury and Joshua was signed for Aug 14. It was all verbal talk.
2. Secondly, the agreement reached between Warren, Arum, Hearn, Fury, and Joshua regarding splits, etc. explicitly included the Widler arbitration clause that Hearn signed. So, him claiming that he was lied to or misled by Bob is a lie. Sure thing Bob thought he would win or that the arbitrator would give some compensation, but that's Bob's opinion. The signed document states otherwise.
3. Thirdly, the fight was NOT going to be signed that day or the next. Several things needed to be ironed out including which British broadcaster will telecast and what would be the split.
4. Fourthly, Wilder did NOT ask for any step aside money. So, Eddie claiming that $20M is a wild exaggeration and misleading.
5. Finally, it was agreed upon that both parties will unanimously announce that fight. Eddie kept on giving interviews that the fight is one and will be signed tomorrow or next week when in reality many things remained to be sorted out. The fight could have been later than Eddie was telling everyone unless everything magically came together.

all well and good except go watch Eddie’s interview. He didn’t claim $20m was exaggerating , he said he was told immediately by Bob arum they would be taking the fight and isn’t aware any attempt for any offer was made at all.

he also confirmed that it was signed with a clause effectively saying “subject to” the result of the hearing.

It’s in franks interests to try and weasel away from the biggest fight in history with some sort of reputation in tact, but reality is we all know what happened and it wasn’t on Eddie or matchroom or Joshua.

[Zelda]

Something tells me, there's more to just "disappointment" in these promoters trading jabs on youtube. AJ's contract with Eddie and his broadcaster is coming to an end (after 1 fight). Similarly, Fury's ESPN (and I assume Arum) deal might also be coming to an end. What's to say both Eddie and Arum/Warren aren't trying to convince AJ and Fury that the other guy is responsible for the fiasco and maybe they should consider switching sides?

Any promoter would be happy to grab either Fury or Joshua.

[Oldskoolg]

Well, if a white professional athlete and highly publicised in their own country, was to go on a protest tell everyone to stop giving money to any Black owned businesses, they’d be crucified in the media and in life in general.

if a white heavyweight champion of the world no forget it, if any other highly publicised sports figure were to send a direct message to an Obscure fellow athlete and directly tell them

“they’re a disgrace to the superior black race”

How do you think that would go down? Are you saying they wouldn’t be deemed a racist? I hope you really think before you answer this aswell oldskoolG.

because I’ve always respected you and you’re opinion, but I’m ready for you today sir. So the floor is yours.


*replace black with any race you like*

The superior black race bit definitely showed that Olafemi isn’t the image that Hearn tries to push to the British public that’s for sure. Here in the USA the Mexicans have a term or more of a phrase called “la Raza” meaning the race. We heard Barrios say he was going to beat Tank for “la Raza.” No one called foul on it. We as white folk are used to being in control of everything and having our way, and we are certainly in control in every aspect of society. People with more colour in their skin ie the Native Americans, the latinised native Americans (which is what most Mexicans save for the Canelo types who are in charge of Mexico and Latina America as a whole) are used to being lesser citizens. La Raza, black is beautiful, “stay woke”, skinfolk, kinfolk, etc etc are ways to create solidarity within a group. Black economic power is a must for black people to increase their standing....it’s the same model as we ***s have adopted since we were forced to be money lenders. ***s will ALWAYS spend money among other ***s first, if the service cannot be met by a ***, we move on to the “goy.” In the USA you see businesses called “American Latino Furniture” and such, basically saying “we are Latino owned, Latinos support us.” Everyone has done this, Latinos, Italians, Greeks, ***s, Chinese, Koreans, the Irish, etc etc. Olafemi was reading a statement and clearly isn’t educated or well spoken enough to express the idea correctly but what he was saying was being each other up financially. When a group that has traditionally been discriminated against has no economic power it makes it easy for them to be held in a place. Money is power, resources are power. When a group has resources they are Dona seat at the table and this is something black Britons don’t have at present. Black Americans know this which is why they have their own universities, this is why you see black business owners, CEOs, judges, senators, governors, presidents, boxing advisors making multi million dollar deals, doctors, police chiefs, generals, movie stars, etc etc. You just don’t see this in the U.K. I support black economic power. It mirrors what my people have had to do to survive and thrive.
now the superior black race bit, you can have that ones I won’t defend that. I suspect that he said it because he felt his black brother should have supported him and he felt a betrayal. It’s no surprise that he speaks this way among his people. I cannot keep track of all the times someone said something racist to me about blacks, Asians, Latinos, and even ***s (I’m an auburn haired pale while skinned *** who is largely of welsh, Scottish, Swedish, French, and Irish blood with a dash of Moroccan Sephardic blood)
because they thought I would join them in that sort of talk. One thing is for certain, Olafemi a people....blacks, Nigerians, west Africans, and even the Caribbeans have almost no power to institute real racism on the U.K...they cannot prevent t you from having a job, cannot deny you housing, cannot create a glass ceiling for whites, cannot erect statues on public land that extols black supremacy etc etc therefor his comments cannot hurt me. So is he a bigot? Possibly. Can his bigotry harm me? No. Am I apart of a group that has harmed his group? Absolutely.

[billeau2]

Hearn seems genuinely pissed off and I believe most of what he's saying but he didn't like it when Kugan was asking if he knew the arbitration could stop the fight from happening and whether it's a good idea to negotiate a fight with someone who's in the middle of an arbitration case. He couldn't really give a straight answer, I think he knows he ****ed up there.

Also, I think he said an arbitrator can't order a fight but isn't that what happened with the Lewis-Rahman rematch?

I just don't understand this weird move from team Fury, why not fight Wilder in December when he wanted the rematch instead of pretending to never want to fight him again, then pretending to want to fight Kabayel instead, then pretending to negotiate for an AJ fight all while knowing it could potentially not happen? Strange decision making throughout, at first I thought they were trying to slyly bypass the Wilder fight to get AJ sooner but the fact that they never made an effort to make that fight, nor did they make any effort to negotiate a step-aside fee/guarantee at the winner with Wilder, just makes it more confusing. Was all this just to delay the Wilder rematch or are they doing all this to duck AJ? Weird behavior.

So you think, Fast Eddie had no lawyers he works with? So when he signs something, or needs to know about international laws, he googles it? Or, if he did have lawyers, brilliant lawyers (they would have to be) helping him negotiate multi million dollar contracts involving many parties....NONE OF THESE LAWYERS TOLD HIM ABOUT ARBITRATION, CONTRACT LAW, OR THE POSSIBILITY THAT A CONTRACT WOULD BE ENFORCED?

The level of ****** on this site is going through the roof...