Comments Thread For: Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder: Arbitration Judge Orders Third Fight

[IRONCHINHAGLER]

Victory on the road for Deontay Wilder. I Couldn't be more proud of him now. He gets the opportunity to take back what is rightfully his that someone tried to steal from him; Which is the WBC Heavyweight title. Isn't this a great country or what?

Now u sound like Trump and his “stolen election”’ campaign! Wilder got the Title beat out of him by a fat Gypsy - twice in the eyes of most experts!

[FLY TY]

Fury has been told to fight Wilder by sept OR he will be in “breach of contract”...which will result in a monetary judgment for Wilder in the future. Expect Fury to fight AJ anyway ...dont think he cares or is going to b controlled by an arbitrators ruling.

Maybe you don't. But I think he'll care about money disappearing from his bank account

And who in their right mind thinks the Saudis still pay 155 for a non-undisputed fight?




But you keep riding.

[FLY TY]

I don't particularly like any of the three HWs involved (I typically root against all of them whomever they are fighting), but I do find it both humorous and sad that fans care more about an arbitration ruling than a potential unified HW champion. That's not to say I like the sycophants in the other camps any better; if the shoe was on the other foot they would probably be doing the same.

Wrong. Wilder could've done the same. He gave Fury the rematch instead...which is why people are happy about an arbitration ruling, if you don't get it.

Some people (fortunately) still believe your word counts for something. In this case, it wasn't just words...it was a contract.

Surprise!

[Toffee]

ETA: and Eddie Hearn is the biggest idiot on the planet. He's cost AJ and himself a lot of money. Who, on God's earth tries to put together a fight against somebody in court for owing another guy a fight?

Maybe. But is there ever a good time to make a fight with Fury?

Think about the last 6 or 7 years. When would you rely on him not having some problem that wouldn't derail the fight?

[GhostofDempsey]

Wilder should be smart for once in his life and accept a step aside offer. He can always fight winner of Fury/AJ for a very lucrative match. If Wilder does fight Fury and by chance pulls a win out of his ass, I suspect he will continue his games and refuse to fight AJ by pricing himself out. Result: no undisputed champion.

[FLY TY]

Maybe. But is there ever a good time to make a fight with Fury?

Think about the last 6 or 7 years. When would you rely on him not having some problem that wouldn't derail the fight?

Facts. But worse if he's in court for breaching a contract to fight someone else, no?

Seems pretty idiotic in that instance, of any other, to try to put together a fight with him.

[FLY TY]

Wilder should be smart for once in his life and accept a step aside offer. He can always fight winner of Fury/AJ for a very lucrative match. If Wilder does fight Fury and by chance pulls a win out of his ass, I suspect he will continue his games and refuse to fight AJ by pricing himself out. Result: no undisputed champion.

So how does it make Wilder smart to take step-aside? He beats Fury, AJ still has to go through him for undisputed. Or is your argument that its smart for Wilder should let two brits fight for undisputed?

[Monty Fisto]

Maybe you don't. But I think he'll care about money disappearing from his bank account

And who in their right mind thinks the Saudis still pay 155 for a non-undisputed fight?




But you keep riding.

You may be right that the money will swing his decision -- and absolutely right that if the AJ/Fury fight isn't for all the titles it will diminish the economics of it -- but at the same time the court absolutely has no power to force Fury to fight Wilder. It can say you have to fight by then or we'll award monetary damages, but that's it. With the Rahman/Lewis case, the judge imposed an 18-month injunction on Rahman fighting a HW bout unless he fulfilled his contractual obligation to Lewis. He'd have been stripped, he had little commerical appeal outside of having the belt and it was therefore a no brainer. There are obviously similarities in certain respects with Fury, though some notable differences also. It's not a no-brainer that Fury will have to fight Wilder in the same way as it was for Rahman against Lewis, just because the commerical appeal of the AJ fight probably outweighs the Wilder rematch even without the WBC belt being on the line.

That all said, there are some quotes out there from Arum suggesting he will stick with the arbitration decision, but we'll see.

[FLY TY]

You may be right that the money will swing his decision -- and absolutely right that if the AJ/Fury fight isn't for all the titles it will diminish the economics of it -- but at the same time the court absolutely has no power to force Fury to fight Wilder. It can say you have to fight by then or we'll award monetary damages, but that's it. With the Rahman/Lewis case, the judge imposed an 18-month injunction on Rahman fighting a HW bout unless he fulfilled his contractual obligation to Lewis. He'd have been stripped, he had little commerical appeal outside of having the belt and it was therefore a no brainer. There are obviously similarities in certain respects with Fury, though some notable differences also. It's not a no-brainer that Fury will have to fight Wilder in the same way as it was for Rahman against Lewis, just because the commerical appeal of the AJ fight probably outweighs the Wilder rematch even without the WBC belt being on the line.

That all said, there are some quotes out there from Arum suggesting he will stick with the arbitration decision, but we'll see.

The economics of a Fury-AJ for non-undisputed, are greatly diminished than for undisputed. Also, does the reward or an AJ fight for non-undisputed greatly outweigh a Wilder fight if you're going to be sued afterwards? Again, money is obviously the deciding factor here, what else is there? They signed a contract stating that if there was any dispute for the trilogy, they would let an independent arbitrator decide, and abide by the decision.

It seems the only people surprised or upset by any of this are either from the UK, or domestic Wilder haters.

(Not calling you either one)

[PBR Streetgang]

Wrong. Wilder could've done the same. He gave Fury the rematch instead...which is why people are happy about an arbitration ruling, if you don't get it.

Some people (fortunately) still believe your word counts for something. In this case, it wasn't just words...it was a contract.

Surprise!

I'm not talking about the fighters, I'm talking about the pom pom toting cheerleaders. The gals out there that wear "PBC", "Matchroom" and "TR" on their uniforms. If you don't get it.