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  • #61
    Originally posted by Toffee View Post

    He's only been in the sport 5 minutes and represents Anthony Joshua, a Heavyweight ranked in the top 2 in the world.

    It's not like he should have promoted Ali at this point. What fight do you think he should have promoted to prove his Heavyweight credentials?
    Joshua - Wilder/Fury. Hell, I'll even take Joshua - Usyk at this point.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post

      It’s not about being handed over

      it’s about securing money in escrow, so all sides are protected. That’s what means.

      ask Amir Khan about how he didn’t get the money he was promised for his fight in Saudi, despite having a contract.

      Signing a contract in the Middle East means nothing, they can shaft you afterwards and what you gonna do? Take them to court in the Middle East? they run the place.

      At least if the money is secured in an escrow account, You know the correct amount will be released to you. Fury is right.
      Talking sense as usual mate.

      These idiots have no idea how business works, probably why most AJ fans are still in school.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by davefromvancouv View Post
        Aren't you forgetting something?

        The Wilder arbitration is still ongoing. Fury can't make any other fight official, otherwise he will lose arbitration.
        Well said! That's the real reason why the fight is being held up and why he can't sign the contract but no one wants to admit it; Not even his promoters Frank Warren, Bob Arum or even boxing fans. Any way one look it Deontay Wilder has a case. He was promised a trilogy bout with Fury but Tyson Fury breached the contract. Thus for the reason for the delayed Joshua/Fury contract signings.
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        • #64
          Eddie Hearn was negotiating in the media, trying to shoehorn Bob Arum and Tyson Fury into deals before they had gotten to the small print. Hearn declared things signed and sealed when they were not. It is an approach that suits Hearn and Anthony Joshua. The thing Eddie doesn't seem to realize though, Bob Arum has been promoting World title fights since before Hearn was born, and Fury is the #1 Heavyweight on the planet. These types of people don't dance to the Matchroom casuals tune. There are due processes to follow, this is not a "deal is signed when it suits AJ and Hearn" type of event. There is no A-Side here.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post

            It’s not about being handed over

            it’s about securing money in escrow, so all sides are protected. That’s what means.

            ask Amir Khan about how he didn’t get the money he was promised for his fight in Saudi, despite having a contract.

            Signing a contract in the Middle East means nothing, they can shaft you afterwards and what you gonna do? Take them to court in the Middle East? they run the place.

            At least if the money is secured in an escrow account, You know the correct amount will be released to you. Fury is right.
            Are you guys conveniently forgetting the fact that Hearn has already done a fight in the Middle East and I didn’t hear Ruiz or AJ complaining about not getting their money. Did you?

            Turn it around and imagine it’s AJ refusing to sign and making all these negative comments. What would you be saying? That he’s ducking/scared/won’t fight a top 2 opponent etc etc etc.
            Last edited by NorvernRob; 05-11-2021, 04:32 AM.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by NorvernRob View Post

              Are you guys conveniently forgetting the fact that Hearn has already done a fight in the Middle East and I didn’t hear Ruiz or AJ complaining about not getting their money. Did you?

              Turn it around and imagine it’s AJ refusing to sign and making all these negative comments. What would you be saying? That he’s ducking/scared/won’t fight a top 2 opponent etc etc etc.
              How do you know the details of the Ruiz and AJ contract and if the money was or wasn’t guaranteed? Maybe it was at the time.

              Hearn said himself it’s been difficult to get real official offers because of covid restrictions and economy. Hearn said there was 5 or 6 offers, two days later AJ said there’s only been 1 real offer. That’s a big difference. That’s probably because many places won’t pay that amount under the current climate.

              so on the back of that, it’s only right to make sure the money is guaranteed. It should be no problem. If they’re willing to host the fight, then they should have a guarantee in place, it’s only right.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by champion4ever View Post

                Well said! That's the real reason why the fight is being held up and why he can't sign the contract but no one wants to admit it; Not even his promoters Frank Warren, Bob Arum or even boxing fans. Any way one look it Deontay Wilder has a case. He was promised a trilogy bout with Fury but Tyson Fury breached the contract. Thus for the reason for the delayed Joshua/Fury contract signings.
                There’s definitely something going on

                when Fury was asked about it by YouTube boxing channels reporters before the BJS, he said he won’t talk about it on camera as it can be legally used against you.

                so it seems they are still trying to work it out.

                Also they had a hearing last week which was supposedly more like a “negotiation” - so maybe they’re negotiating a step aside fee, which may also tie in to why Fury wants to make sure the site fee money is guaranteed?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post

                  It’s not about being handed over

                  it’s about securing money in escrow, so all sides are protected. That’s what means.

                  ask Amir Khan about how he didn’t get the money he was promised for his fight in Saudi, despite having a contract.

                  Signing a contract in the Middle East means nothing, they can shaft you afterwards and what you gonna do? Take them to court in the Middle East? they run the place.

                  At least if the money is secured in an escrow account, You know the correct amount will be released to you. Fury is right.
                  Not handing money over to Fury, but still handing over money.

                  Securing funds is common. But signing contracts after the money is moved is less so.

                  All the contract has to say is that the funds will be there by a certain date. If they're not, then they're in breach of contract.

                  When you signed your mortgage agreement, was that before or after the funds moved?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Toffee View Post

                    Not handing money over to Fury, but still handing over money.

                    Securing funds is common. But signing contracts after the money is moved is less so.

                    All the contract has to say is that the funds will be there by a certain date. If they're not, then they're in breach of contract.

                    When you signed your mortgage agreement, was that before or after the funds moved?
                    Well do you know the contract? maybe there’s nothing in it regarding money being there by a certain date or any guarantee at all.

                    none of us know

                    but the reality is that there should be some guarantee that the money is there, whether it’s by a certain date or some other way.

                    We’re not talking about a mortgage in England, we’re talking about making deals in the Saudi Arabia, a place with some of the worst human rights in the world , a place renowned for screwing people over with contracts knowing there’s very little you can do about it. Ask Khan.

                    let’s be realistic, it’s unlikely Fury is sat combing through the contract. The concern would be coming from his lawyer.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post
                      Well they should be having some guaranteed amount from the site fee before signing? Hearn has been saying he’s securing site fees, so surely there’s a guaranteed amount?

                      why would anyone sign without one?

                      biggest fight in the world should have a guarantee in a contract. You think Floyd, Canelo etc. Would be signing contracts without the money guaranteed by a bank or whatever?
                      another ****ing excuse that a clown like you is throwing out......here we have Hearn who has consistently made the biggest fights and biggest rewards for fighters of the last 10 years...from froch vs groves , Joshua vs klitchcko and Mega money fight with the 2nd ruiz fight and then the biggest ever indoor event in the USA with canelo and here you are once again defending this joke of a fighter in Tyson fury.......fury is throwing out any excuse not to take this fight and a fool like you is taking the bait and believing it...absolutely pathetic

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