Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Fury won't sign site fee deal until money is guaranteed. Looking to fight someone else in July

Collapse
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #51
    Originally posted by Toffee View Post

    You're right, Bob Arum is a real straight shooter! Come on, we're talking about boxing promoters here.

    Fury's team has told you what the hold up is. All parties have been consistent throughout. There's no conspiracy theory to look for. It's right there in front of you.
    Arum is probably an even bigger snake than Eddie is. BUT he has a history of putting together some of the biggest fights in boxing history. Eddie does not.

    In fact what heavyweight superfight has Eddie put together? Other than Joshua Klitschko? A fight for a vacant title which Wlad pretty much asked for anyway???
    !-1 likes this.

    Comment


    • #52
      Originally posted by KingGilgamesh View Post

      Eddie Hearn, like most narcisstic manipulators, tends to do his best work appealing to idiots. Guys like REDEEMER, DaNeutral, Monzon99 are indicative of the garden variety idiot who makes up a lot of the average boxing fan on these shores. They hang onto Eddie's Eddie's word the same way they lionise every other youtube/social media star. Its sad to see.
      Eddie has been clever tbf to him. He consistently manipulates the gullible, I’ve never seen so many fans blindly defend a promoter. King had his fans, Arum had his supporters but Eddie’s followers are almost cult like. It’s very sad as you said.
      !-1 likes this.

      Comment


      • #53
        Originally posted by Toffee View Post

        So you think Wilder turned down more money because fighting Joshua would be harder work?

        I agree.


        Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post

        So you expect Joshua to pay out on Wilder and then let Wilder call all the shots? You spinnin around in circles of BS. You know how the sport works but you playing stupid to keep to your dumb narrative.

        I put it down to jealousy of Joshua and Hearn.
        Isn't that what he's doing currently? Paying Fury so Fury can ***** and moan about everything?

        Comment


        • #54
          Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

          And based on the history of their negotiations. It’s pretty clear which team that’s likely to be.

          Wilder-AJ and Fury-Wilder 1 and 2 were still mega fights as well- or in the first case potentially a mega fight.
          Wilder v AJ was for all the chocolates. Same as AJ v Fury now. Both were massive and those fights don't usually happen. Whoever you blame, Wilder didn't fight Joshua just as much as Joshua didn't fight Wilder.

          Wilder v Fury 1 wasn't really a megafight. It was one where both parties needed the fight. Wilder was out of any kind of legitimate challengers. Fury was practically irrelevant at that point. His top 10 ranking (was it 8?) was a gift to him. It was one where 'if you knew, you knew' and most people didn't know.

          You can ask why AJ and Fury didn't fight back then... but I think it's obvious that you don't waste the fight between the two best British Heavyweights for when one of them is only just getting back in the picture.

          I don't quite know how Fury got the second Wilder fight. That was a huge fight, I'll agree. Whether they had already reached some kind of agreement after the rematch was ordered by the WBC, who knows? Or maybe it was just the promise of a third fight that had team Wilder ready to cash out?

          Fights happen because they make sense.Joshua's team have been making these guys offers and, for whatever reason, they haven't made sense for them. Both Wilder and Fury's teams seem to confirm that they are real and are lucrative.

          Comment


          • #55
            Originally posted by KingGilgamesh View Post

            Arum is probably an even bigger snake than Eddie is. BUT he has a history of putting together some of the biggest fights in boxing history. Eddie does not.

            In fact what heavyweight superfight has Eddie put together? Other than Joshua Klitschko? A fight for a vacant title which Wlad pretty much asked for anyway???
            He's only been in the sport 5 minutes and represents Anthony Joshua, a Heavyweight ranked in the top 2 in the world.

            It's not like he should have promoted Ali at this point. What fight do you think he should have promoted to prove his Heavyweight credentials?

            Comment


            • #56
              I don’t think either man can be accused to ducking at this point, at least not yet. Arum needs to stop courting the Arabs who keep leaving him at the alter. Every time he says he has a deal brewing with Saudi or Dubai it falls through at the last hour. Besides, who wants to watch a huge fight with an audience full of Saudi mannequins who just sit there and don’t make any noise?

              Comment


              • #57
                This is ridiculous

                Comment


                • #58
                  Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

                  Eddie has been clever tbf to him. He consistently manipulates the gullible, I’ve never seen so many fans blindly defend a promoter. King had his fans, Arum had his supporters but Eddie’s followers are almost cult like. It’s very sad as you said.
                  It’s the other way around, some of you are obsessed with hating Hearn. The fact is that Fury and his team are the ones who have been making all sorts of excuses for this fight not happening. Now Fury wants a guarantee of cash from a bank before he even signs the contract? (In which said contract will be the financial guarantees anyway obviously).

                  The same Fury who didn’t care about money? Same Fury who’s never defended a title? Same Fury who went awol from 2 Wlad rematches? Same Fury with a history of mental problems? Same Fury who’s been talking about ring rust and a tune-up fight instead?

                  I don’t really like AJ but who has he ducked? Do people have so little intelligence that they really think promoters (any promoter) spend weeks, months, negotiating contracts, spending large amounts of money, then purposely make them bad enough in order for the other fighter not to sign? Nobody can believe that unless they’re blinded by hate.
                  Last edited by NorvernRob; 05-11-2021, 03:54 AM.
                  Szef, BodiesInFlight and ChrisCook like this.

                  Comment


                  • #59
                    Originally posted by QballLobo View Post
                    I don’t think it’s unreasonable for Fury to want to see some guarantee the money is there.
                    Hopefully Hearn can provide him the assurance he needs and get this thing across the finish line.
                    Especially from the middle east

                    Amir Khan didn’t get what he was promised from
                    his fight in Saudi

                    that’s why you need to money secured in escrow before signing.
                    !-1 likes this.

                    Comment


                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Toffee View Post
                      Is the argument here that Fury wants bank guarantees before signing a contract?

                      I don't know about boxing, but usually you sign a contract that states bank guarantees will be provided as security within a certain period.

                      Bank guarantees are effectively money. Who's handing over money before signing a contract?
                      It’s not about being handed over

                      it’s about securing money in escrow, so all sides are protected. That’s what means.

                      ask Amir Khan about how he didn’t get the money he was promised for his fight in Saudi, despite having a contract.

                      Signing a contract in the Middle East means nothing, they can shaft you afterwards and what you gonna do? Take them to court in the Middle East? they run the place.

                      At least if the money is secured in an escrow account, You know the correct amount will be released to you. Fury is right.
                      !-1 likes this.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      X
                      TOP