A win for cotto means #1 pound for pound?

[Spacey1991]

even if pbf beats jmm he doesnt deserve to be the #1 p4p. hes a welterweight who needs to prove himself against legit welters. beat the top guys at 147 then sure, he can be the p4p king again

You could say the same about Pacquiao fighting at 145 though.

If Floyd beats JMM convincingly and Cotto beats Manny... either Floyd or BHOP will get #1 spot... most likely BHOP, but with him inactivity... people might not move him anywhere...

I think it all boils down to how he beats JMM, if he beats him. But if Pacquiao beats Cotto, he keeps his place... even if Floyd KO's JMM in round 1.

[fdotorres]

i dont think so. floyd is a welter and he needs to prove himself against legit welters if he wants to be #1 p4p. though beating marquez might place him in the top5 p4p

you know what? i honestly think that even if pac and jmm loses, they will keep there spot on the p4p list for the reason that theyre moving up in weight to fight the big guys

cotto will have a better place in the p4p list but i just cant see him being the #1 by beating pac

i thought cotto wouldn't deserve it either, until he was made a 3 to 1 underdog.

manny is too overrated right now. he's a legend, there's no doubt about that, but his current image is that he's so great that not even a dominant WW can beat him. if he loses against a bug underdog (cotto), he'll go down on the list. you just can't stay #1 p4p after getting a loss. he'd be #3 or #4 IMO

in floyd's case, he'll be considered #2. i agree with what you say, but it doesn't work that way unfortunately. heck, the only WW he beat was bumdomir, and he stayed p4p king without actually campaigning at WW

[oc9979]

even if pbf beats jmm he doesnt deserve to be the #1 p4p. hes a welterweight who needs to prove himself against legit welters. beat the top guys at 147 then sure, he can be the p4p king again

yea the same way according to people here Cotto wont be #1 by beating Pacquiao which he is #1, and Cotto is ranked in the p4p list. But they will put Mayweather #1 by beating #2 and not being ranked anywhere in the p4p ranks

[fdotorres]

No No.. I think if Floyd beats JMM he's number one ONLY if Cotto beats Pac, however if Pac wins Pac stays number one.. It would be ridiculous to give Floyd number one with only a Jmm win..Pac would need to lose

i got you mixed up with the crazy dude that claims floyd will be #1 no matter what. lol my bad

[Bobby Shaw]

Hes been out for 2 years, even if you leave on top if you go away for 2 years you can't just come back beat the #2 P4P fighter and get the top spot when the #1 P4P fighter has been dominant in his previous fights, Manny has to lose to lose his spot, its different with number 1, you can't take the number 1 spot without somebody losing that spot and being dethroned.

I like Floyd, hes my favorite fighter... and I want to see him take the #1 spot back... but I am being fair here, come on.



I guarantee the majority of P4P lists will disagree if Floyd beats JMM convincingly and Pacquiao beats Cotto.

Just like Floyd is the Emritus WBC 147lbs champion right now so is his number one status.Everyone right now is just waiting to see how much Floyd's got,if he's still sharp and impressive,he automatically takes back his spot.Manny meanwhile will become number 2,and the truth is even if he's extremely good against Cotto the best he will become is number 2.Cotto's record over the last 2 yrs is not impressive so in the pound for pound ratings that's taken into consideration.Floyd was not number one for a few months like Pacquiao,he was over a long time and that's not erased just like that.If he's still doing what he was doing 2 yrs ago he will be the best fighter.

[fdotorres]

Just like Floyd is the Emritus WBC 147lbs champion right now so is his number one status.Everyone right now is just waiting to see how much Floyd's got,if he's still sharp and impressive,he automatically takes back his spot.Manny meanwhile will become number 2,and the truth is even if he's extremely good against Cotto the best he will become is number 2.Cotto's record over the last 2 yrs is not impressive so in the pound for pound ratings that's taken into consideration.Floyd was not number one for a few months like Pacquiao,he was over a long time and that's not erased just like that.If he's still doing what he was doing 2 yrs ago he will be the best fighter.

the WBC has rules that make him emeritus WBC champ

where are the "p4p emeritus champ" rules? i'm still waiting for them

[Rabbit ♠]

Monument Rd

Oh yeah, over there by Regency? I live in Orange Park off of blanding..used to stay on southside.. Is it me or is Jax like MMA crazy? I catch UFC now and again but I feel like no one cares about boxing here?

[JM1]

You could say the same about Pacquiao fighting at 145 though.

If Floyd beats JMM convincingly and Cotto beats Manny... either Floyd or BHOP will get #1 spot... most likely BHOP, but with him inactivity... people might not move him anywhere...

I think it all boils down to how he beats JMM, if he beats him. But if Pacquiao beats Cotto, he keeps his place... even if Floyd KO's JMM in round 1.

thats a big NO. pac is moving up to fight cotto, and cotto just beat a legit welter in joshua clottey. win or lose, cotto deserves a better spot in the p4p list til floyd fights a legit welter

[oc9979]

This rankes are before Margarito beat Cotto
Cotto is number six and Margarito is not there
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This ranked are after Margarito beat Cotto
Cotto moved 8 and Margarito become 6
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Now Mosley is number 4 and since his fight with Margarito has not fought anyone while Cotto will do his 3 fight this year.
Jennings- just a come back fight
Clottey -#3 at Welterweight
Pacquiao -#1 P4P and #1 Jr Welterweight

[JM1]

i thought cotto wouldn't deserve it either, until he was made a 3 to 1 underdog.

manny is too overrated right now. he's a legend, there's no doubt about that, but his current image is that he's so great that not even a dominant WW can beat him. if he loses against a bug underdog (cotto), he'll go down on the list. you just can't stay #1 p4p after getting a loss. he'd be #3 or #4 IMO

in floyd's case, he'll be considered #2. i agree with what you say, but it doesn't work that way unfortunately. heck, the only WW he beat was bumdomir, and he stayed p4p king without actually campaigning at WW

pac is a 3-1 favorite now?? thats bull****