A win for cotto means #1 pound for pound?

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  • fdotorres
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    #81
    Originally posted by chiyoko
    Cotto hasnt been good for almost 2 yrs now,how can he be the best WW?
    what elite welter has floyd beaten at WW?

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    • JM1
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      #82
      Originally posted by chiyoko
      Is that how you define convincing?
      In any case how many years back was that?
      So in your eyes Cotto shouldnt be an underdog because he had a questionable decision over Mosley 10 yrs ago?The fact that he was made into a punchbag by Margarito in his next fight after the gift is immaterial?
      why? do you have mosley winning that fight?

      comprehension fail. i said 3-1 favorite is too much, i didnt say that cotto shouldnt be the underdog. practice reading comprehension, its good for you

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        #83
        Originally posted by fdotorres
        what elite welter has floyd beaten at WW?
        i wanted to say that, cause this people want floyd to be the #1 p4p without facing real competition at 147

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        • Spacey1991
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          #84
          Originally posted by JM1
          thats the point bro. it has a "?" cause theres no proof. if there was, it should be "!"

          the only way to find out whos the man at welter is to have cotto-shane rematch
          No, there isn't proof, meaning the win is legit in records and rankings until there is, I think Margarito did use it against Cotto but what we think means jack **** at the end of the day, its still there in the rankings.

          Cotto beat Mosley what would be 2 years ago when Pacquiao and Cotto fight, Margarito beat the man in Cotto, and Mosley beat the man in the division against Margarito... making him the man.

          That is just like saying that if Floyd beats JMM and Pacquiao beats Cotto that Floyd and Pacquiao are joint #1 until they fight because Floyd was the king 2 years before.

          Seriously... Cotto is a big fight and I give Pacquiao props for it, but Mosley is #1 in the division when you look at it like that, once again... as I said, the other way to argue about Cotto being #1 in the division is if you talk about how Mosley has been inactive since his win, but you are not talking about that, that's why I am debating with you.

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          • Bobby Shaw
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            #85
            Originally posted by JM1
            why? do you have mosley winning that fight?

            comprehension fail. i said 3-1 favorite is too much, i didnt say that cotto shouldnt be the underdog. practice reading comprehension, its good for you
            Young man,you are not only ****** but illiterate
            Cotto deserves to be a 3-1 underdog if not worse is my point.I guess we need to have a GMAT here before every mofo can be accepted into this site.

            Get beyond elementary school before you say ****** things about others

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            • Spacey1991
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              #86
              If you said you believe Cotto is #1 in the division due to Mosley being inactive since he beat Margarito... I would say fair enough you can look at it that way... but what you were saying was wrong IMO.

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                #87
                Originally posted by JM1
                why? do you have mosley winning that fight?

                comprehension fail. i said 3-1 favorite is too much, i didnt say that cotto shouldnt be the underdog. practice reading comprehension, its good for you
                3:1 is way to much IMO, maybe 2:1 but 3:1 at this stage before the fight is too much.

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                • oc9979
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by chiyoko
                  Do you watch boxing?
                  When last did Cotto have a convincing win (apart from Jennings)?
                  Check that whole pound for pound list,those boxers dominate their opponents mostly,they win a lot more rounds than they lose.As for Cotto for a quite a long time now,even himself he wasnt sure he would see his hand being raised and that's what you call pound for pound material.No one can dispute Manny's ability except when it relates to Marquez
                  i guess JMM and Pacquiao 2 fights were not close??

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                  • Bobby Shaw
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by fdotorres
                    what elite welter has floyd beaten at WW?
                    He beat a Baldomir who was undisputed champion at that time
                    destroyed Judah who was an elite fighter (Floyd is the one who destroyed Judah)
                    Went up to 154 to beat a WBC champ
                    The ring magazine Champ went up to 147 and lost,so what more can you say?

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                    • JM1
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by chiyoko
                      Young man,you are not only ****** but illiterate
                      Cotto deserves to be a 3-1 underdog if not worse is my point.I guess we need to have a GMAT here before every mofo can be accepted into this site.

                      Get beyond elementary school before you say ****** things about others
                      ******? you failed to comprehend and im the one whos ******?

                      i said, i think 3-1 underdog is too much and i made an argument why i think of it that way.

                      no thought is more ****** than yours. floyd being the #1 p4p even before the pac-cotto fight? i normally dont use this word but, youre an idiot

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